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by yabert
Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:27 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
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Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


Is there smart people who can explain if there is chance that can go wrong?

Like this VESC is rated for 300A continuous, but what are we talking about here? Phase amps or battery amps?
Who care about phase amps? I mean, most who want fast acceleration for their small e-motorcycle or go-kart ...
by yabert
Tue Apr 15, 2025 2:47 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

As I'm not enough electronically inclined to hack a Honda or Outlander inverter, I plan to take the road of the VESC controller.
The VESC 75v 300A model seem to fit well to drive Leaf or Kona EV motor at low power (5-15 kW) and low rpm (caused of 58V nominal battery).
MK3 model or MK4 model, I don't ...
by yabert
Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:40 am
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

:shock: :o :shock: Awesome!!
Romale I can't imagine what I could do if I had only 50% of the knowledge/capacity you have to reuse inverter :)
I have to look closely at those Honda or Outlander inverter before spending $ on new lower quality inverter.
by yabert
Sat Apr 05, 2025 6:41 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


The leaf motor will do much more than that voltage in regen. There are high voltage options for vesc but not off the shelf, diy route, some shared. It's also a very low ohm motor for a common vesc. I'd be very surprised if an off the shelf vesc lasted very long driving a leaf motor.
Wow! Really ...
by yabert
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:14 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

arber333 wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:52 am Resolver is redundant there as long you dont need absolute position of the blades.
Yes, a prop in the water don't need great torque control.
So, sensorless can work fairly well according to you?
by yabert
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:12 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


Why not just run a Hv mppt
I'm open to suggestion.
But from what I know, reliable stuff only exist for 12V-48V.
I know there is HV inverter with integrated MPPT, but it's clearly not a way I would like to go.

Then, with an HV battery, MPPT is a challenge, but also inverter, charger, fuses, etc ...
by yabert
Sat Apr 05, 2025 2:08 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

VESC project?
Wooh! Sexy, compact and affordable for the 75V 300A. Thanks to share.
Can probably output the 5-10 kW continuous/ motor for your needs.
Those will spin a Leaf motor without too much challenge? Sensorless? Resolver signal?
Also, based on a 58V battery (up to 66V) is it better to pick ...
by yabert
Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:54 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


So at 400A it'll drop 0.8V where an IGBT will always drop around 2V. So yeah, at least double the losses. Also what I observed in various experiments. MOSFETs almost did not heat up where IGBTs did.
This point alone will probably keep me away from the Leaf inverter and the openinverter control ...
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:38 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


split the battery into multiple 58V modules that each have their own MPPT controller, then put them in series for the motor?
Sound like the best way to end with batteries at different SOC :?
Really, I don't need high power because anyway I will not have a lot of energy, and I also don't need ...
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:23 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

johu wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:18 pm By controller you mean
Yes.
I should have written: Do you think this can be done with the Leaf controller + openinverter control board?
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:10 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


So you would think, ah, no problem at 58V it can do 26 kW at 750 rpm. Thing is it can only do so short term as it runs around 400A per phase. Half that, *may* work continuously. I wouldn't go as far as saying no way here but it's a gamble.

This is exactly my thought. And that ''may'' work ...
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:57 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

tom91 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:36 pm So no idea what the rpm/V curve is
What I found is this data and this graph.
With 1/6 of the voltage I don't know why it could not output 1/6 the power.
Leaf motor efficiency.JPG
Leaf motor spec-3.JPG
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 5:11 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Re: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor


Why that low a voltage?

To stay compatible with all the popular 48V solar stuff (MPPT, charger, inverter, etc).
Even if you use an open inverter board in the nissan leaf inverter, to allow such a low voltage.

Interesting!
Simply based on the motor, if a 40 lbs motor (ME1507) can output around ...
by yabert
Thu Apr 03, 2025 3:39 pm
Forum: Projects
Topic: Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor
Replies: 33
Views: 5690

Solar Catamaran 45ft with dual Leaf motor

Hi

I'm looking to a way to use 2 Leaf motors to move a 45ft Cat.
I have experience with conversion, EV and battery in general, but not much with hacking controller.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9146376
http://www.evalbum.com/4155

So, my goal is to have two 10-20 kW motors ...