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Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:58 am
by Kevin Sharpe
Please DO NOT contact Damien directly but rather post your issues to the forum so that we can help one another. Some excellent work is being undertaken on the forum/wiki and if we keep at it we'll soon have solid and supportable products that we can all use 8-)
Jack Bauer wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:11 am Now I have had several contacts over various platforms recently all asking that I add things like extra part boms, extra software etc to github to make life easier. Sadly I'm not going to do this as I'm just one person and the level of fatigue I am feeling recently is quite overwhelming if I'm honest. Sometimes feels like I'm that guy doomed to push a rock up a hill everyday just to watch it roll back down. What I will say is that if people want to see more detail on github then please get involved. Submit a pull request on there with boms etc and I'll hapilly merge them in. Or just upload on here and I'll pop it up on github. But this does mean YOU doing the work not me.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:01 pm
by Bassmobile
See attached CSV BOM for hand placed parts, descriptions and part numbers.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:24 pm
by Bassmobile
Have 10 qty extra JST # BM08B-CPTK-1A-TB. $4.00+$3.10 shipping within the US. PM.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:32 pm
by Bassmobile
Jack Bauer wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:11 am Submit a pull request on there with boms etc and I'll hapilly merge them in. Or just upload on here and I'll pop it up on github.
MR Here:
https://github.com/damienmaguire/Prius- ... ter/pull/2

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:32 am
by Eflyers
Jack Bauer wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:11 am Folks, apologies for the confusion I had not updated the partially built section on the webshop. That is now done. The only board available is the V1c.

Now I have had several contacts over various platforms recently all asking that I add things like extra part boms, extra software etc to github to make life easier. Sadly I'm not going to do this as I'm just one person and the level of fatigue I am feeling recently is quite overwhelming if I'm honest. Sometimes feels like I'm that guy doomed to push a rock up a hill everyday just to watch it roll back down. What I will say is that if people want to see more detail on github then please get involved. Submit a pull request on there with boms etc and I'll hapilly merge them in. Or just upload on here and I'll pop it up on github. But this does mean YOU doing the work not me.
Damian, take a break from this stuff. Even Jack Bauer only worked for 24 hours before he needed a break.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:51 am
by Jack Bauer
Merged in. Many thanks.

Yeah I'm gonna be making some changes soon.With myself, not the board:)

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:53 am
by Bigpie
https://openinverter.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Gen3_Board

I've added photos of the steps taken to assemble my kit to the wiki. I'll continue to document.

Not knocking Damien's videos, I've followed along but I find it tedious trying to skip along and pause at the correct locations, so hopefully it'll be useful to others in addition.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:42 am
by Jack Bauer
Much appreciated.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:40 am
by bobby_come_lately
Bigpie wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:53 am https://openinverter.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Gen3_Board

I've added photos of the steps taken to assemble my kit to the wiki. I'll continue to document.

Not knocking Damien's videos, I've followed along but I find it tedious trying to skip along and pause at the correct locations, so hopefully it'll be useful to others in addition.
Brilliant. Thank you. This will be really useful.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:46 am
by bobby_come_lately
Question on resolver wiring. Forgive me this may be daft but I've searched the forum and the web in general and can't find an answer I'm confident in.

There are connections on the 35pin ampseal for Resolver SIN, COS and Exciter. But obviously each of these coils has two connections. Do the other sides (R2, S3, S4) all just go to ground?

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:08 am
by arber333
bobby_come_lately wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:46 am Question on resolver wiring. Forgive me this may be daft but I've searched the forum and the web in general and can't find an answer I'm confident in.

There are connections on the 35pin ampseal for Resolver SIN, COS and Exciter. But obviously each of these coils has two connections. Do the other sides (R2, S3, S4) all just go to ground?
Yes EX! goes to GND because it is the return of the exciter winding. SIN!/COS! go to a single voltage supply which supply their winding with 1.6V. Then whatever happens inside resolver true SIN/COS signals are routed to sensing pins where STM32 chip reads analog value of signals and determines position of rotor.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:20 am
by bobby_come_lately
Great. Sorry for the follow-up question but what sort of current demands should I expect on that 1.6V supply? Assuming that's DC can I just run a little buck converter off one of the 5V outputs?

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:53 am
by Jack Bauer
What? You dont need to add any power supply.

For resolver connect EXC to one side of the exciter winding and other to Ground.

Connect one side of SIN winding to SIN and other to Encoder A

Conenct one side of COS winding to COS and other to encoder B.

Your done.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:12 am
by bobby_come_lately
Aha! Brilliant. Thank you.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:37 pm
by Bigpie
Could someone with a windows machine add instructions to the wiki on how to program the bootloader when they've got 5 min? https://openinverter.org/wiki/Toyota_Pr ... n_Firmware

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:52 pm
by zippy500
done :)

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:08 am
by Bassmobile
Bigpie wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:37 pm Could someone with a windows machine add instructions to the wiki on how to program the bootloader when they've got 5 min? https://openinverter.org/wiki/Toyota_Pr ... n_Firmware
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EDIT: should have checked wiki before posting. *nix instructions are already up.
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Above was assembled today with all the connectors needed salvaged from a dead OEM board. I'm getting quite good at quickly harvesting parts from dead boards with my toaster and tweezer methods. I have 4 spare sets of reclaimed connectors now if anyone on my side of the pond needs the bits and bobs to assembly their board, Send a PM. Also have all the connectors for wiring it up to your whips wire loom. Let me know if you need some stuff, I've got spares of almost all of it.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:55 am
by bobby_come_lately
I am in awe of your desoldering skills @Bigpie. I turn connectors to goo even with a hot air gun.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:29 am
by Bassmobile
bobby_come_lately wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:55 am I am in awe of your desoldering skills @Bigpie. I turn connectors to goo even with a hot air gun.
Don't use a hot air gun.

Use a junked toaster oven. Disable the top heat element. Place an 8mm-ish thick aluminum sheet in the oven that will allow the door to close. Install one of these: `https://www.ebay.com/itm/254470543520` to control the temp. Place your salvage PCB upon the aluminum plate. Start at 200ºc, and work your way up, 5º at a time. Keep an eye watching the solder for signs that it is melting. tip: most boards use lead-free solder, it melts at around 215-220°C Use long tweezers to remove the parts that you want.

It's easy.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:04 am
by bobby_come_lately
Amazing! My mother in law has one of those toaster ovens...

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:52 am
by 4markowen
*had

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:58 pm
by bobby_come_lately
Ha!

Quick question on voltages: what sort of voltages should I be expecting on the pre-charge and main contactor outputs? Just been doing some testing and it wasn't switching the relay modules I'm using initially for testing. Stuck a multimeter on it and I'm only seeing ~2v when they switch on?

Ignore this. Was a wiring error.

Worse, it was a me being dumb error.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:52 am
by bobby_come_lately
Couple of questions:

- I'm only reading 25.8V at the via next to the inductor, whereas the wiki says I should be reading 36V. Is this an indication of a problem? DC supply is a solid 12V.
- I'm getting a steady 77.2 degrees off tmphs whether or not the temperature sensor is connected to the board. What should snsms snshs be set to? Closest I can get to a realistic reading is about 10 degrees out with KTY83-110.

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:02 am
by Bigpie
Thank you for pointing out the typo in the wiki, it's supposed to be 26v

Re: Prius Gen 3 Inverter Logic Board Support Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:42 am
by bobby_come_lately
That's good - I shall stop worrying about that one.