In today's SuperYacht adventures we cut the cord on the old fuel system, powerwash several kg of dirt out of the wheel well and get a donation of an EU Model 3 charge port and ecu for some CCS fun:)
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:15 am
by Jack Bauer
Now for the simple part : force feeding a Tesla Model 3 EU CCS charge port down the filler neck of a 20 year old 7 series....
In other news the front battery box assembly is done. Getting my head around the OI bms now. Pro tip : trying to compile 8 bit avr c code with a 32 bit arm compiler is a bad idea
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:04 pm
by mdrobnak
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:15 am
Now for the simple part : force feeding a Tesla Model 3 EU CCS charge port down the filler neck of a 20 year old 7 series....
I hope the US version fits a little better than that..I'll be honest, I didn't measure the E46 opening before going down this path.
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:15 am
In other news the front battery box assembly is done. Getting my head around the OI bms now.
What is being used to compress the cells together? Don't prismatic cells need some help staying in the correct shape?
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:15 am
Pro tip : trying to compile 8 bit avr c code with a 32 bit arm compiler is a bad idea
That made laugh quite a bit this morning.
Hopefully we'll get this thing charging rapidly. (See what I did there? )
-Matt
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:49 pm
by johu
I thought fitting ChaDeMo was hard, but this Though for some reason I think you will force it in anyway
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm
by Jack Bauer
First success today with the Openinverter bms. 8 of the 25 boards fitted and talking in the front battery. Can't wait for the youtube comments when they see me working away with bare hands, no flash suit and no $$$ orange tools
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:11 pm
by ZooKeeper
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm
Can't wait for the youtube comments when they see me working away with bare hands, no flash suit and no $$$ orange tools
Just tell them you have developed "internal resistance" to electrons... :O
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:38 pm
by jalovick
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:00 pm
Can't wait for the youtube comments when they see me working away with bare hands, no flash suit and no $$$ orange tools
I believe it goes "Damien, you're doing it wrong"...
Funnily enough, I'd just posted about PPE on the DIY Electric Vehicles Facebook page with the obligatory link to WeberAuto's PPE video, as there are a stack of new people joining, and I figure they need to at least be aware of the potential dangers. It has sparked quite a conversation.
For someone like you, working on these systems is old hat. I will say be careful, as always...
Jamie
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:43 pm
by mdrobnak
jalovick wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:38 pm
For someone like you, working on these systems is old hat. I will say be careful, as always...
^ This. I've made more errors in my job due to (being real here) complacency. Just because it's gone fine the previous 100 times doesn't mean we don't want to try and do it right on run 101. Damien is quite capable, hopefully he ensures he'll be around for a while still.
-Matt
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:05 pm
by LRBen
I have a question on your new battery pack, are you planning on running those cells all in series? Or were you going to parallel the front and back boxes?
I'm kind of hesitant to parallel strings of cells, but I'm also a little hesitant to reconfigure my Kokam cells away from the 10s1p modules they came in.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:21 pm
by Jack Bauer
Front and rear packs will be in parallel. 100s in each pack so 100s2p.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:41 pm
by LRBen
That's interesting, I was lead to believe that parallel strings are best to be avoided. But I'm not going to argue, seemed a shame/lots of effort to undo the work that went into those 10s modules!
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:57 pm
by slow67
Smith Electric trucks used Valence batteries in parallel. Separate fuses, bmses, and contactors for each string.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:04 pm
by rstevens81
I always thought that the not in parralell thing was only to be avoided where the packs would have different capacities , whereby one would discharge faster than the other and you would get current 'sloshing' back and forth between the packs whilst the voltages would try and settle.
However I by no means an expert so I could be wrong.
Edited, not completely correct, parralell strings must essentially independent with own contactors etc.
Added Orion pdf on subject
Jack Bauer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:55 pm
After a long absence the SuperYacht is back home. Drove today with the same crappy batteries but oh my god it is a BEAST! Clocked 90mph at 5500rpm on MG2 with the battery sagged to under 300v and it was still pulling!
Thanks to an amazing donation from a customer I have a 40kwh pack of Kokam cells that will be fitted soon.
What gear do you usually run in? Do you shift at all, or just go in high gear only?
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am
by shirk
Just read this whole thread start to finish. Great project.
Did Bexus ever end up on a dyno?
This gs450h set up has me wanting to do an e46 wagon project.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:50 am
by Domt177
shirk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:00 am
Just read this whole thread start to finish. Great project.
Did Bexus ever end up on a dyno?
This gs450h set up has me wanting to do an e46 wagon project.
That’s precisely what I’m up to, e46 touring with gs450h gearbox
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:26 pm
by Jack Bauer
I'm calling it the middle class man's charger:) Ampera charger kindly sent to me by Boxsterev , a nissan micra radiator and some left over bits and pieces. doubles as a 3.3kw 200-420vdc power supply also.
Anyway, getting down to charging and balancing the front battery pack for the E65 now that I have a "portable" charger:)
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:54 pm
by Boxster EV
Haha. That’s very cool. Done well that charger.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:16 pm
by james@N52E01
Never say die! Very smart little unit. Are you going to bottom balance the cells with a managed system or manually? Asking for a friend
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:25 pm
by tom91
Reminds me of my little setup also using a Ampera charger to charge the random things i build.
And ofcourse mine also had smashed off connectors.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:19 pm
by bobbyj_408
tom91 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:25 pm
Reminds me of my little setup also using a Ampera charger to charge the random things i build.
And ofcourse mine also had smashed off connectors.
Nice! Tom, looks like you're connecting the charger to the wall outlet directly for testing, is that correct? I'm guessing you're input would be 220v AC, but 110v (US) should work, right?
tom91 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:25 pm
Reminds me of my little setup also using a Ampera charger to charge the random things i build.
And ofcourse mine also had smashed off connectors.
Nice! Tom, looks like you're connecting the charger to the wall outlet directly for testing, is that correct? I'm guessing you're input would be 220v AC, but 110v (US) should work, right?
Should work, I have not proven it myself.
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:26 pm
by bobbyj_408
tom91 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:43 pm
Should work, I have not proven it myself.
Thank you!
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:48 am
by Jack Bauer
Got some new battery plans for the E65:)
Re: The SuperYacht BMW E65 7 Series
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:05 pm
by arturk
Nice looking modules Damien (Jaguar I-Pace?). I wonder if you can fit all 36 modules in E65. That would be awesome.