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Posted: **Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:32 pm**

Seems like there is some progress and the commitments should be in by the end of this week. If there are any peeps who want to join, please do so now and any current committers please think about your needs and whether they have changed. If all who are committed also please send me your e-mail addresses via PM so I can take further communication off the forum and make things happen faster.

Thank you all for you patience and engagement!

Posted: **Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:20 pm**

Hi,
I'm interested in 12 modules.
Northern Poland.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:00 pm**

Hi,

I am interested in 18 modules. Unfortunately somehow I can't send you a PM.

Netherlands

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:08 pm**

Now you can, you need one approved post before becoming a real member (spambot counter measure)

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:49 pm**

What is the situation going to be with the module link cables?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:53 pm**

Hi,
as it goes to an end, I'm interested in 24 modules / 36kWh.
NW Germany.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:59 pm**

Was it established whether they are going to be the old or new generation? It looks like if they are the old ones the energy density is way less than any of the other modules out there, which would make it a non starter for me.

Posted: **Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:58 am**

Just out of interest has anyone gauged the power density?
How many Amps can these Gen3 or Gen4 packs provide pulsed?
34Amp hours Capacity. So safe C rate?

The main fuse seems to be 200amps so that’s around 6c.

I read earlier in the thread that Damien was interested for Lexus/Toyota inverter application? Doesn’t that inverter want 450+amps from the battery sometimes? Would that be ok if you ran 2 packs in parallel (custom fuse and Contactors and buss bars to handle the current)

Posted: **Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:03 pm**

As full voltage pack is about 9kWh you’d most likely want to parallel 2-3-4-5 or so packs. So this should be no problem at all.

Posted: **Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:25 pm**

Hi all,
Just new here and going to be a while before I can use them but I can commit to 12 modules/18KW.

Ireland

Posted: **Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:09 pm**

Is this likely to come to fruition before we in the UK kick ourselves where it hurts repeatedly and then have completely no idea on imports and tariffs? 1st of Jan 2021

Posted: **Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:21 pm**

I'll double my commitment to 12 modules. It's looking like I may have a new project.

Posted: **Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:06 pm**

happy to commit with 24 modules

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:38 am**

I previously put myself down for 12 modules, but am now up to 36, or maybe 48 modules.

If any of the Aussies are interested in shipping together, I have and an indicative freight cost to Sydney, and happy share that.

We would need an MSDS I'm guessing that must be available?

Michael

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:46 pm**

Bigpie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 8:09 pm Is this likely to come to fruition before we in the UK kick ourselves where it hurts repeatedly and then have completely no idea on imports and tariffs? 1st of Jan 2021

I would not worry, there will be so much political pressure on Bo-Jo (The clown?), not to SMEG that up, as businesses need to cary on trading post "The Event", I expect VAT [+2.0% or 2.7% see below] & will most likely be payable, but hey still cheap as £60/kwh. (plus shipping of course)

Current 2021 Guidance

If you’re importing standard goods into Great Britain from the EU between 1 January and 30 June 2021, you:
can use ‘entry in the declarant’s records’ without getting authorisation in advance
do not need to make an entry summary declaration

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/declaring-g ... nuary-2021

Edit:

Just found it .... https://www.check-future-uk-trade-tarif ... y&n=25&p=1

8507600018

Lithium-ion polymer accumulator equipped with a battery management system and can-bus interface with: -a length of not more than 1600 mm, -a width of not more than 448 mm, -a height of not more than 395 mm, -a weight of 125 kg or more but not more than 135 kg, -a nominal voltage of 280 V or more but not more than 400 V, -a nominal capacity of 9,7 Ah or more but not more than 10,35 Ah, -a charging voltage of 110 V or more but not more than 230 V, and -containing 6 modules with 90 cells or more but not more than 96 cells enclosed in a steel casing for use in the manufacture of vehicle capable of being charged by plugging to external source of electric power of heading 8703

UK Global Tariff 2.7%

Notes: UK Global Tariff rate: 2.0% An Autonomous Suspension applies, this will be reviewed in due course

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:09 pm**

michaelh wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:38 am I previously put myself down for 12 modules, but am now up to 36, or maybe 48 modules.

If any of the Aussies are interested in shipping together, I have and an indicative freight cost to Sydney, and happy share that.

We would need an MSDS I'm guessing that must be available?

Michael

Hi Michael, I'm up for 36 (+) and I'm in Brisbane. I'd be interested in what you have. I wonder about collecting enough orders to make a full container and have it shipped from the wholesaler rather than double shipping. Is the wholesaler in the US ? ( i have prices for shipping from there).

Cheers
Andrew

Posted: **Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:16 pm**

im trying to scrape together enough for 36 modules/6 packs

Posted: **Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:27 pm**

Hi,
I'd like to jump in for 12 modules. First post so will PM email address when I get passed!

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 pm**

Hello i will take 18 modules.
Thanks

Posted: **Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:49 am**

Are the modules only available in multiples of 6? I'm not building an energy store or EV conversion, I'd just like one module for various experiments and maybe to build a lawnmower

Thanks.

Posted: **Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:23 pm**

I would like to put my name down for 24 modules (4 Packs of 6)!! thanks folks

Posted: **Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:57 pm**

What would the price be for ~20kwh of packs? I'd be interested in joining this and maybe for more.

Posted: **Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:31 pm**

It's a real shame, but I don't think this is likely to go ahead as it's been collecting interest for over 3 months. With no known quantity requirement to reach and the interest spread around the globe it's not clear how this would work in practice even if the 'magic' quantity was reached and a wholesaler was found - who would be responsible for the onward shipping after the container is delivered? Who would deal with now nearly 100,000EUR in funds?

It would require someone to take on a lot of risk, organisation and storage (which I would expect to compensate somebody for) but that hasn't yet been factored in...

Posted: **Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:49 pm**

Dang this would have been perfect too.

Posted: **Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:56 pm**

I had the same concerns as we didn't know what we were aiming for, but it seemed that was something that the original poster had offered to take on some of the responsibility for with some assistance from Kevin?

jnsaff wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:32 pm Seems like there is some progress and the commitments should be in by the end of this week. If there are any peeps who want to join, please do so now and any current committers please think about your needs and whether they have changed. If all who are committed also please send me your e-mail addresses via PM so I can take further communication off the forum and make things happen faster.

Thank you all for you patience and engagement!

I must admit I never saw this request for email addresses as I just saw the stream of additional commitments ticking up. Has anything progressed as a result jnsaff?

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