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Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:16 pm
by johu
I have now sold off all pre-fabricated V3 main boards. It took quite a long time to do so, now I'm not sure if it's worth the effort and money to order new ones. Don't get me wrong, I still think it's a good design but low volume manufacturing is quite a drag and if you want it done cheaply you have to go to China and order in 1000 quantities. So I do consider dropping SMD designs altogether and go back to through hole for low volume electronics.

So if I find 10 people interested in this (community or 1:1 supported version)
https://openinverter.org/shop/index.php ... duct_id=53
or this
https://openinverter.org/shop/index.php ... duct_id=51

I would go ahead an order another batch. Basically I would set stock quantity to 10 and when sold out place the order. From there on it's 4 weeks + shipping.

Update:
I say if 4 people prepay boards (community or supported, w/ or w/o Leaf adapter) I'd get a batch of 12 made (remaining 3 panels). So once we have a list of 4 here, I'd open shop for 4 boards so no one unaware of this thread orders one and is then disappointed by the lead time.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:21 pm
by doobedoobedo
I don't know how many you got made up, but well done.

I'm certainly happy with mine and I'd recommend getting a tested board to others. I hope you get to do another batch soon.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:15 am
by zippy500
I want to buy a rev3 board, would you want a list of people before ordering ?

I am waiting for the elusive leaf motor coupler to appear :?

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:43 pm
by johu
zippy500 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:15 am I want to buy a rev3 board, would you want a list of people before ordering ?
Yes lets do one here, see how many we get.
I say if 4 people prepay boards (community or supported, w/ or w/o Leaf adapter) I'd get a batch of 12 made (remaining 3 panels). So once we have a list of 4 here, I'd open shop for 4 boards so no one unaware of this thread orders one and is then disappointed by the lead time.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 am
by D@F
hi all, i'm interrested in one or two set of community board.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:10 pm
by johu
So two more - spread the word :)

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:17 am
by johu
I got another inquiry for a V2 Leaf kit so that makes it 4. So everyone interested please head over to the shop and put your money where your mouth is :)

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:18 pm
by D@F
ok i will make the order on next week. thanks.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:52 pm
by johu
Ok never mind. I will order some more Rev3 boards from JLCPCB and they will be much cheaper, at least in the community version.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:46 am
by JaniK
That JLCPCB seems to be the name to go for year 2020 openinverter related PCBs..

Have you got samples from them before?

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:41 pm
by johu
Just ordered 10 populated boards for the price that I paid for ONE board before. Delivered!
Only part they don't stock is the programming header but since I ship the boards preprogrammed that's not really a problem. Also couldn't find a high current 0805 inductor for the boost converter so that is now a little larger. No other changes needed :)

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:20 am
by MattsAwesomeStuff
Just ordered 10 populated boards for the price that I paid for ONE board before. Delivered!
Daymn.

Despite having worked as a solder wave machine operator, and pick n pull operator, and other various things, I never looked up what the boss was charging anyone or what things cost us.

Just how cost effective is ordering populated PCBs from JLC compared to your guys' old source? Boards cheaper too?

I guess my end question is... compared to ordering just a board and then ordering all components new and assembling yourself, how much more expensive is it per board to order 10x populated boards? Is it, cheaper than making it yourself because their component cost is lower than yours and the economies of scale of doing 10 at a time, even after placing and soldering? Or, same price? 2x? 5x?

At some point it's close enough I'll say I'm not interested in soldering anymore. The only comparison I have is Damien's GS450 unpopulated vs. populated and tested, and that one is 12x difference (50eur vs. 600eur) using the old method.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:00 am
by johu
If I were to source parts myself it would be on par with this. Absolutely no point to solder it yourself in this case.

Not sure what their business model is and why they limit you to 30 boards.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:16 pm
by johu
Anticipating the upcoming delivery of Rev3 boards I have dropped the price of all related products up to 50%. Check out the shop :)

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:17 am
by johu
10 boards arrived from JLCPCB today. Needless to say the quality is amazing.
Thankfully there was only one little mistake: the tiny NAND gate (IC9) has a SOT23-6 footprint on board but I put an SC70-6 part in the BOM. SC70 is even smaller than SOT23 so not all pins actually reach the pads. JLCPCB placed a small sticker with an arrow next to it to catch my attention. Nice touch!

Still I only understood their hint after my automated board test failed. Yes it did fail and thus successfully identified an error 8-)
The fix is easy, just bend the pins outwards a bit and add some solder.

Sent 5 boards out today and 5 are left. All necessary files on github (including the SC70 problem..). Video coming.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:40 pm
by dima
I find that on (eBay) Chinese suppliers it is a lot easier to find Triple 3-Input NAND gate (SOIC-14) than Single 3-Input ( SOT-23-6)

Maybe consider this component -> SN74HC10D

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:40 pm
by johu
Just changed the footprint to SC70-6 and ordered more boards 8-)

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:16 pm
by jerrykco
Johannes, I received my v3 main board and the nissan leaf inverter adapter board and I did the preliminary work of installing all the through hole parts. Your design and directions make it so easy for a non-EE to do the work. I also went back on your youtube channel and watched all your videos.Of particular interest for me was Lab updates 16-27 (I haven't finished all of them yet. But you obviously spent an unbelievable amount of time for us DIYer's. Thank you for that!
Now starts the big learning

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:36 am
by jerrykco
Success on first power-up!
404.3 Openinverter kit Testing of Inverter mounted on Leaf Adapter.jpg
Very pleased with my self.
I also connected via wifi too.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:10 pm
by johu
Thanks, good to hear someone mentioning the existing material instead of the non-existing ;)

EDIT: images are not displayed, maybe marked private?

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:41 pm
by jerrykco
Sorry, I can't figure out how to attach a picture. [SOLVED]
Previously I chose the little picture icon and put the url between the tags.
I edited se last two posts now and just pasted the url.
But how does one attach a picture?

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:16 pm
by dima
jerrykco wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:41 pm Sorry, I can't figure out how to attach a picture.
forum-attach-picture.png

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:12 pm
by jerrykco
dima wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:16 pm
Thanks Dima for the Newbie help.

Re: Mainboard v3 future

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:01 pm
by jerrykco
johu wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:10 pm Thanks, good to hear someone mentioning the existing material instead of the non-existing ;)

EDIT: images are not displayed, maybe marked private?
With help for a newbie from generous forum users, I have edited the post and fixed the pictures.