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Subaru Crosstrek PHEV Swap Project

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:13 pm
by maland2
Hello all!

I'm looking for resources/information on what it takes to control an E-CVT in its intended configuration but an aftermarket application. By E-CVT I mean specifically the Subaru/Toyota TH-2A, but could be generalized to any CVT with this type of configuration (2 MG units, no belt). From browsing this forum a bit it seems like for pure EV applications these types of "transmissions" are used with the ICE input constrained and the unit as a whole used purely as an electric drive system. I'm curious if anyone has used on of these e-CVTs with an ICE and used aftermarket inverters/controllers hardware or software.

I've been tossing around the idea of swapping this transmission (the TH2A) into an older Subaru, and using it as it was intended by Subaru in the Crosstrek Hybrid. The goal would be to create a Subaru platform plug-in hybrid with an unrestricted ICE (the one in the crosstrek PHEV is de-tuned to 130hp) and the ability to combine ICE & EV power like in the Rav4 Prime, rather than what Subaru does in the crosstrek which is limit power (combined output is ~150hp). My two main concerns are:
  • The reason Subaru detuned the ICE and doesn't combine ICE and EV power in the Crosstrek is because it would blow up the transmission.
  • Designing a control system to elegantly switch between EV/ICE modes and vary speed/power between the two MG units and the ICE would be insanely complex.
I'm not as concerned about point 1 because MG2 is directly coupled to the main output shaft, meaning other than the diffs there's nothing to explode between it and the wheels. The ICE could also be de-tuned because otherwise MG1 wouldn't be able to put up enough resistance to send power to the output.

Any help/ideas/input would be awesome, thanks!

Re: Subaru Crosstrek PHEV Swap Project

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:49 pm
by Bratitude
thread here: viewtopic.php?t=1641

inshort, good luck controlling an ice and the gearbox in combination.

hybrids are complicated to build. let alone a pure ev.

no one has picked one up, or let alone gotten mg1 and mg2 running. it might work with a toyota/lexus inverter with sync serial (if the motors are really just the same) but if not 2 inverters tuned and synced will be required