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Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:09 pm
by medo
Hello everyone,
I have installed the zombieverter in my E60, but there are problems with the ABS, DSC, an error is also triggered, it reports that there is a fault in the servotronic, but the car does not have a servotronic installed, if I start the car without the VCU, then the error goes away, could it be due to the E65 configuration??
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Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:28 pm
by tom91
Did you take CAN logs before taking out the engine?

What version of the Zombie Software are you on? Which vehicle did you select?

We need more data to figure out what your car wants to see.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:35 pm
by tom91
You have wired the Zombie instead of the Engine ECU to the powertrain CAN right?

Also please provide your VIN for referencing on ISTA

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:48 pm
by medo
tom91 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:35 pm You have wired the Zombie instead of the Engine ECU to the powertrain CAN right?
that's right, the chassis number is WBANC71050B627749, in the vehicle selection I selected E65, version 2.17a

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:55 pm
by tom91
You try the other vehicle options? Like E46

Unless you have CAN logs of your vehicle this is going to be hard to figure out. Do you have the BMW workshop software tool?

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:58 pm
by medo
Unfortunately I have not created any logs, I have already tested e46 and e39, but that does not work, I also have no BMW workshop software, except for inpa

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:01 pm
by crasbe
Didn't Karim had to do a lot of changes to get everything running in his E60?



I'm not sure he published his fork of Zombie. In General I haven't heard of him in a while 🤔

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:10 pm
by medo
I also think that something in the code needs to be changed, unfortunately I can't get the compilation to work on Windows 10

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:42 pm
by crasbe
For building the Zombie code, I created this Docker container: https://github.com/crasbe/ZombieBuild
That makes building the binaries a lot easier and I know that a couple of people use it regularly.

However you need to know what you need to change in the source code... and for that you would need CAN logs (at least) 👀

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On another note: I found the source code from Karim: https://github.com/7yatna/Stm32-vcu
He implemented an E60 class, which you might be able to use: https://github.com/damienmaguire/Stm32- ... vcu:master

Keep in mind that this is NOT officially supported source code! I don't know in which state it is if it works or not and what it does and what it doesn't do.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:52 pm
by tom91
Most of this is in the Zombie release, and proven working on Jamies Car. It is practically identical to the R56 work i done.

So there is something strange going on with this car.

Can you pull CAN logs now of the powertrain bus? It should help me understand what is going on.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:41 pm
by medo
crasbe wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:42 pm For building the Zombie code, I created this Docker container: https://github.com/crasbe/ZombieBuild
That makes building the binaries a lot easier and I know that a couple of people use it regularly.

However you need to know what you need to change in the source code... and for that you would need CAN logs (at least) 👀

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On another note: I found the source code from Karim: https://github.com/7yatna/Stm32-vcu
He implemented an E60 class, which you might be able to use: https://github.com/damienmaguire/Stm32- ... vcu:master

Keep in mind that this is NOT officially supported source code! I don't know in which state it is if it works or not and what it does and what it doesn't do.
can you compile the Karim firmware for me to test, I can't get the compilation to work on my laptop

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:50 pm
by tom91
tom91 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:52 pm Most of this is in the Zombie release, and proven working on Jamies Car. It is practically identical to the R56 work i done.
No point running Karims code, a bigger risk things do something unexpected.

Provide a CAN log of the powertrain bus.

Provide your .Json of the parameters so that can be checked.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:16 pm
by medo
i make a log with and whithout VCU connected, also the Parameters of vcu
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I have installed the LDU, the VCU should only activate the ABS and pass the gears because of the reverse light, the VCU has no influence on the LDU, I can't access the ABS via inpa, no answer, it worked with the original engine

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:33 pm
by tom91
All looks right on the CAN bus, I do not see any ABS CAN info which is strange possibly another kind of ABS module.

The CAN frames sent from the Zombie are correct.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2024 1:38 pm
by medo
maybe the engine control unit has to stay connected??
I took it out completely
the power supply and fuses of the ABS module are also ok

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:57 pm
by medo
I finally managed to compile damian's repo without any problems, but I get an error message from Karim's repo, what could be the reason for this ?

Code: Select all

Makefile:42: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?).  Stop.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:56 pm
by medo
Well, there is news, you have to connect the 2 CAN cables on the DME connector to each other, but it doesn't say anywhere that you have to do it that way.
Now we also have the ABS in the CAN bus system, but I still get an error message, could that be due to the E65 message??
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Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:20 pm
by tom91
medo wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 4:56 pm Well, there is news, you have to connect the 2 CAN cables on the DME connector to each other, but it doesn't say anywhere that you have to do it that way.
Are you still on the standard release of Zombie?

Thats upto you to figure out, it is impossible to document each car. Torque 3 is message: 0xAA

https://github.com/HeinrichG-V12/E65_Re ... me-ov-file

Please grab another CAN log, from vehicle a sleep till key on, need to check wake up works on your car.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:51 pm
by medo
Yes i use the latest Firmware 2.17
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Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:56 pm
by tom91
So there maybe a possibility it is upset due the lack of a counter in the message 0xAA. You are capable of compiling Damiens STM32_VCU repo right? Then I can provide you something to try to add this in.

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:01 pm
by medo
Yes, i can compile

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:13 pm
by tom91
medo wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:01 pm Yes, i can compile
Dm'ed you update to the BMW E65/E9x coding to try

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:41 pm
by medo
that Works, Many Thanks
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Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:47 pm
by tom91
Perfect, suprised that when some tested it was fine.

Push request made for this change https://github.com/damienmaguire/Stm32-vcu/pull/100

Re: Zombieverter, E65 vs E60

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:54 pm
by medo
I'll test it tomorrow while driving, there was another error when I brake at about 20kmh, a strange error that I've never seen before, something to do with OBS, I'll report tomorrow