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Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 6:27 am
by maiks
Hello,
In my EV conversion project using a Zombieverter, Nissan Leaf drivetrain, and a 400V battery pack, I’ve been using a 50W 35ΩJ resistor as part of the pre-charge circuit. However, the resistor works for a few days before failing—I’ve already replaced it three times.
I would appreciate your help in determining the correct type and rating of resistor to use for reliable and safe operation.
Thank you in advance!

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 8:16 am
by tom91
I tend to just use an oversized 100watt 100 ohm resistor. Most builds do not need a low resistance precharge.

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 10:47 am
by jrbe
The resistor in your image is 35 ohm, not 350 ohm. At 400v there is 4500 watts acting on it initially.

Tom's recommendation has 1600 watts as the initial hit.
These both sound huge but are short duration.

These both have wattage taper down as the voltage delta drops over time. You can use https://www.digikey.com/en/resources/co ... e-constant
To see the current and voltage over time if you know the voltage, resistance, and capacitor values of your build. This will show the time to charge as well. Something like this,
Screenshot_20250502_063444_Samsung Internet.jpg
This gives you the charge time, take the joules divided by time to charge to give you the average resistor watts for this charge time.

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 2:20 pm
by maiks
tom91 wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 8:16 am I tend to just use an oversized 100watt 100 ohm resistor. Most builds do not need a low resistance precharge.
Thank you tom91 . I tried 100W 40 ohms and that didn't even last for 10 minutes

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 3:10 pm
by maiks
jrbe wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 10:47 am The resistor in your image is 35 ohm, not 350 ohm. At 400v there is 4500 watts acting on it initially.

Tom's recommendation has 1600 watts as the initial hit.
These both sound huge but are short duration.

These both have wattage taper down as the voltage delta drops over time. You can use https://www.digikey.com/en/resources/co ... e-constant
To see the current and voltage over time if you know the voltage, resistance, and capacitor values of your build. This will show the time to charge as well. Something like this,
Screenshot_20250502_063444_Samsung Internet.jpg

This gives you the charge time, take the joules divided by time to charge to give you the average resistor watts for this charge time.
Thank u . Have got 2 50W 30 ohms and l want to connect them in series to make 100W 60 ohms . Is this a good idea?

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Fri May 02, 2025 3:19 pm
by tom91
maiks wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 3:10 pm Is this a good idea?
Yes its better(lower peak power) then any other resistor you tried so far.

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Sat May 03, 2025 11:28 am
by maiks
tom91 wrote: Fri May 02, 2025 3:19 pm Yes its better(lower peak power) then any other resistor you tried so far.
Thank you . Have tried it and it has worked

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 3:50 am
by mattes
thanks for that info. I just blew the precharge resistor in my ev build with a leaf 2020. I am in the process replacing it. I ordered some 100w 33ohm from amazon to replace the oem 30ohm 40watt. Curious how they are gonna work.

one thing i came to notice is that the zombiverter leaves the precharge relay engaged and never turns off after the main contactor is active. Was surprised to see that.

This is a different behavior compared to the original leaf VCU. This turns precharge off, some seconds after the main contactor is engaged. My guess is I blew my resistor because I had some cabling issues. and the main contactor wasn't engaged and once i applied power it blew the resistor. not 100%, but i think thats a solid guess.

Is there a reason why zombie leave the pre-charge relay enabled?
in case there are some issue with the main relay, I think it is a given to blew the precharge side, due to the overload

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:06 am
by peakPWR
mattes wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:50 am one thing i came to notice is that the zombiverter leaves the precharge relay engaged and never turns off after the main contactor is active. Was surprised to see that.

This is a different behavior compared to the original leaf VCU. This turns precharge off, some seconds after the main contactor is engaged. My guess is I blew my resistor because I had some cabling issues. and the main contactor wasn't engaged and once i applied power it blew the resistor. not 100%, but i think thats a solid guess.

Is there a reason why zombie leave the pre-charge relay enabled?
in case there are some issue with the main relay, I think it is a given to blew the precharge side, due to the overload
This is something I noticed as well.
Is there any motivation behind it staying on? I mean it doesn't matter functionwise as the main contactor bridges the resisitor but why leave it on?
Shouldn't be too hard to change in the code but first I want to make sure it isn't on purpose

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 5:07 pm
by tom91

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:41 am
by maiks
Hello

I am using a 2015 Nissan Leaf drivetrain with a Zombie VCU. Recently, I connected a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV heater unit (part number 7807A007) to the system. I wired the heater’s high-voltage lines in parallel with the Leaf AC compressor’s high-voltage lines.

When I start the car, the precharge resistor is getting damaged. I suspect that adding the heater has increased the inrush current, causing the resistor to fail. Am using 100w 60R resistor

Could you please provide suggestions or solutions on how to fix this issue?

Re: Precharge resistor guidance

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:31 am
by tom91
Are you drawing power through the precharge resistor?

The heater will not have that much capacitace so that shouldnot cause a failure.

Possibly you are just buying cheap resistors that are not really 100W.