Vw Bus Meets Toyota Meets Leaf
Posted: Fri May 09, 2025 12:27 pm
Hello all.
I am deep in the research phase of a pretty ambitious build. As a background, I have a background in ME, and understand the safety precautions, I have worked on 480v 3 phase equipment and retrofitted my fadal cnc mill with linux. So I'm not a rookie, but also can recognize dunning kruger and know I know nothing on this subject.
The vehicle is a derelict 1964 Vw bus that was abandoned in the woods of Minnesota and rescued by me in 2015. It was pretty toast to be a restoration candidate, so my original plan was to put a modern engine in it with a 4x4 drivetrain using a combination of jeep, toyota and jetta parts. So, I fabricated a full rectangular tube chassis and it became apparent that packaging was going to be an issue for my goal of actually using this as a camper. In the midst of this, I came to own a ford F150 hybrid for a while and fell in love with the off grid capabilities of the hybrid, especially when we were boondock camping.
I ran across https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1996-l ... t.1268985/, and decided that leaf power was maybe the way to go, so I've spent the last 3 months taking notes, reading, and in general realizing I know nothing.
As of now I plan to mate a leaf motor to a transfer case doubler made from a complete toyota case and a planetary from a jeep 241 case for gear reduction. Combined with 4.10 gear ratio axles and my planned tire size, it should put me at around 6200rpm at cruising speed, which seems ideal for a leaf. I plan to run an onboard 30-40kwh pack, which I hope to get 75-100 miles range from. Since I loved my hybrid so much, I plan to build an auxiliary trailer with a VW TDI engine mated possibly to a second leaf motor as a generator ( still working this part out) to act as a range extender and also to have backup power for my house. The range extender would be for longer trips and staying off grid.
I will get to BMS, controllers, etc as we go, but right now one of my hang ups is on the year leaf donor (i am a dealer and buy from auctions) I can right now pick up a 2017sv with 38k miles, or a 2018sl with 87k miles, the 2018 will be almost double the price, but still cheap at around a $2800 investment. I'm inclined to go to the 2018 for the 40kwh pack and larger power motor, turn offs are miles and the 18+ seem to have less support.
My other hangup is on battery. I would like to use LPF packs like these https://batteryhookup.com/products/new- ... atic-cells, from a safety standpoint I'm leery of the risks associated with Li-ion. I know they are a bit safer being aircooled, but still sits in the back of my mind.
Anyhow, I appreciate any criticism and input you experienced folks can give me. Feel free to tell me I'm a complete idiot.
I am deep in the research phase of a pretty ambitious build. As a background, I have a background in ME, and understand the safety precautions, I have worked on 480v 3 phase equipment and retrofitted my fadal cnc mill with linux. So I'm not a rookie, but also can recognize dunning kruger and know I know nothing on this subject.
The vehicle is a derelict 1964 Vw bus that was abandoned in the woods of Minnesota and rescued by me in 2015. It was pretty toast to be a restoration candidate, so my original plan was to put a modern engine in it with a 4x4 drivetrain using a combination of jeep, toyota and jetta parts. So, I fabricated a full rectangular tube chassis and it became apparent that packaging was going to be an issue for my goal of actually using this as a camper. In the midst of this, I came to own a ford F150 hybrid for a while and fell in love with the off grid capabilities of the hybrid, especially when we were boondock camping.
I ran across https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1996-l ... t.1268985/, and decided that leaf power was maybe the way to go, so I've spent the last 3 months taking notes, reading, and in general realizing I know nothing.
As of now I plan to mate a leaf motor to a transfer case doubler made from a complete toyota case and a planetary from a jeep 241 case for gear reduction. Combined with 4.10 gear ratio axles and my planned tire size, it should put me at around 6200rpm at cruising speed, which seems ideal for a leaf. I plan to run an onboard 30-40kwh pack, which I hope to get 75-100 miles range from. Since I loved my hybrid so much, I plan to build an auxiliary trailer with a VW TDI engine mated possibly to a second leaf motor as a generator ( still working this part out) to act as a range extender and also to have backup power for my house. The range extender would be for longer trips and staying off grid.
I will get to BMS, controllers, etc as we go, but right now one of my hang ups is on the year leaf donor (i am a dealer and buy from auctions) I can right now pick up a 2017sv with 38k miles, or a 2018sl with 87k miles, the 2018 will be almost double the price, but still cheap at around a $2800 investment. I'm inclined to go to the 2018 for the 40kwh pack and larger power motor, turn offs are miles and the 18+ seem to have less support.
My other hangup is on battery. I would like to use LPF packs like these https://batteryhookup.com/products/new- ... atic-cells, from a safety standpoint I'm leery of the risks associated with Li-ion. I know they are a bit safer being aircooled, but still sits in the back of my mind.
Anyhow, I appreciate any criticism and input you experienced folks can give me. Feel free to tell me I'm a complete idiot.