Outlander REMCU Pinout/Connector interface. Also downloadable as XLSX and ODS format for your own modification and use

File:Outlander REMCU Wiring.png

2020-06-24T21:26:56Z

ScottS:

Outlander Rear Motor Inverter Connector Pinout/Connector Interface diagram. Also available as a template file for your own use

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Inverter

2020-06-24T20:42:28Z

ScottS: Updated table with relevant information

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Inverter

2020-06-24T20:09:28Z

ScottS: Added page with copied over content from drive motor

Main Page Old

2020-06-24T20:06:45Z

ScottS: /* OEM Parts */ Added link to Mitsubishi Page

Welcome to the openinverter.org Wiki Site.
Everyone registered at the [https://openinverter.org/forum/index.php forum] can login here with the same username and password and can make changes.

= Before you begin: =
'''Please take the time to read.''' The information provided on this wiki and the support forums is intended as information only. The Open Inverter project and it's contributors take no responsibility for how you use the information contained within these pages, nor any liability for injuries, or death, that may result from your actions.

You undertake '''your''' project at '''your own risk.'''

= Introduction =
The Open Inverter projects consists of a core development project around an open source inverter, a power stage, taking the DC current provided from a battery and converting it to a controlled signal to drive AC and PMSM motors.

The project has also spawned additional projects that take existing OEM Power Stages/Inverters from cars, which having been made in bulk and are now cheaply and readily available, and provides a means of upcycling and taking control of them so they can be used in conversion projects.

There are also additional projects and discussions in the [https://openinverter.org/forum/index.php forums] for components beyond the power stage, such as Battery Management Systems, Motors, Batteries, etc.

Combined these projects and discussions and the community effort on this wiki and on the [https://openinverter.org/forum/index.php forums] aim to make converting existing internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, a cheap and easy proposition for individuals, and companies, looking to specialise in converting ICE vehicles.

=== The open inverter project consists of three main aspects: ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Hardware
!Firmware
!Web Interface
|-
|The design and development of the [[Main Board Version 3|control hardware]] based around an STM32F103 chip. This provides the control signals to the power stage and on to the attached components.
|The development of the code that goes on the STM32F103 chips and determines, amongst other things what signals are sent to the power stage and the attached components.
|Using an ESP8266 chip, the development of a simple web based interface to adjust the parameters on the firmware chip and to display values returned from the chip, for example motor speed (RPM).
|}

= Getting Started =
=== Inverter variants available: ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!
==== Open Inverter (Core Project) ====
!
!
==== Open Inverter Related Projects / Control Boards ====
|-
|'''This is the kit provided to build your own power section,'''
'''meaning sourcing and constructing your own IGBTs and'''

'''other components.'''

| rowspan="6" |
|'''This is the kit/boards for use with existing power sections,'''
'''meaning inverters sourced from OEM parts taken'''

'''from existing cars, etc. and utilising the components'''

'''within them.'''

|-
| rowspan="3" |
====== Open Inverter Hardware ======
* [[Hardware Theory of Operation]]
* [[Schematics and Instructions]] - for the "vanilla" inverter kit.
* [[Main Board Version 3]]
* [[Main Board Version 2]]
* [[Main Board Version 1]]
* [[Sense Boards]]
* [[Gate Driver]]
* [[Sensor Board|Legacy Sensor Board]]

|'''[[Tesla|Tesla Small Drive and Large Drive Units:]]'''
commonly there is a large drive unit and small drive unit available.

These combine the inverter and motor into a single package. The

control boards for these replace the existing control board within them.

|-
|'''[[Lexus GS450h Inverter|Lexus GS450h Inverter / VCU:]]'''
the GS450h provides a gearbox (where the motors are located)

combined with the original inverter, this board looks to control

the inverter and the gearbox itself to provide a powerful set up

suitable for rear wheel drive set ups, replacing the existing

longitudinally mounted gearbox.

|-
|'''[[Toyota Prius Gen3 Board|Prius Generation 3 Inverter:]]'''
a cheap available inverter from the popular Prius hybrid, this

board goes inside that inverter and allows you to control the features of it.

|-
| rowspan="3" |
====== '''Open Inverter Software''' ======
* [[Using FOC Software]]
* [[Downloads]]
* [[Features]]
* [[Web Interface]]
* [[Battery Charging]]
* [[Errors]]
* [[CAN communication]]
* [[Parameters]] (Tune your inverter)
* [[Configuration Files]]
* [[Software Theory of Operation]]
|'''[[Auris/Yaris Inverter:]]'''
similar to the Prius board, there's subtle differences between them and

therefore the need for a separate board.

|-
|'''[[Nissan Leaf VCU|Nissan Leaf VCM:]]'''
this vehicle control board plugs into the Nissan Leaf inverter externally

and controls it via CAN
|-
|
|[[Inverters|All Control Boards / OEM Inverters]]
|-
|
|
|
|-
| colspan="3" |
====== CAN communication ======
Common across boards is the ability to communicate with a CAN Bus, which is a 'control area network' or a technical way of saying how various components, sensors, controls, etc communicate with one another within the car. '''Read more about [[CAN communication|CAN Communication]]'''

There is also a project to standardise the messages across the various control boards, [[Introduction CAN STD|read more]]

|-
| colspan="3" |
|-
| colspan="3" |
====== Use inverter as a battery Charger ======
Both the open inverter and some OEM inverters can be used as a battery charger, further saving on component costs. You can read more about how the open inverter and the theory of charging [[Battery Charging|here]]

|}

=== Further Components ===
Once you have the [[Inverters|inverter]], you will need additional components for your EV conversion:
* [[Motors]]
* [[Batteries]]
* [[Charger]]
* [[DC/DC Converter]]
* [[HV Junction Box]]
* Other various components
** Vacuum Pumps
** Heaters
** Air Conditioning
** Information Displays
** etc.

Existing information on these items can be found on the [[EV Conversion Parts]] page.

= FAQs =
* [[Common Inverter FAQ]] - questions common to all hardware variants
* [[Tesla Inverter FAQ]] - questions regarding Tesla Large Drive Units and Small Drive Units

= Open Inverter CAN std. =
* [[Introduction CAN STD|Introduction]]
* [[CAN table CAN STD|CAN table]]
* [[Getting started with CAN bus and an Arduino Uno]]

= Glossary of Terms =
* [[Glossary of Terms]]

= Legalities =
* [[Legalities|Legalities around conversion projects]]
Different countries have different legislation, if you want you car to certified for the road in your country please take the time to review this section.

= Conversion Projects =
* [[VW Polo 86C Conversion]]
* [[Touran Conversion]]
* [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=11 Further Projects on the forum]

= OEM Parts =
* [[BMW]]
* [[Isabellenhütte Heusler]]
* [[Mercedes]]
* [[Nissan]]
* [[Tesla]]
* [[Toyota]]
* [[Chevrolet]]
* [[Mistubishi]]

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2020-06-21T00:59:48Z

ScottS: Further details and tidying

'''Forum board''': https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Property
!Value
!Source
|-
|Device
|Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential
|
|-
|OEM
|Mitsubishi
|
|-
|Type
|AC Motor 10 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30
|-
|Manufacturer
|Meidensha
|https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html
|-
|Suppliers
|Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Max RPM
|9600RPM
|
|-
|Mechanical Mounting
|6x M10 Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)
3x M? Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander
|Author experience
|-
|Shaft Type
|20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Resolver
|SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102
Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver
|https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB
|-
|Cooling
|Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander)
|Author experience
|-
|Weight
|42kg
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Power To Weight Ratio
|70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg
|
|-
|Diff Ratio
|7.065:1
|http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf
|}
'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|none]]

'''Description'''

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.

'''Power Rating'''

It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| TBC - TBC || 50 kW || TBC || Y61
|-
| TBC - 2018 || 60 kW || 195Nm Peak || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

'''Connectors''':

HV: 3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Datasheet: https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/2019_phev/index_M1.htm

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2020-06-21T00:18:53Z

ScottS:

'''Forum board''': https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

'''OEM''': Mitsubishi

'''Manufacturer''': Meidensha - https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html

'''Suppliers''': Ebay, Second Life EV batteries

'''Type''': 10 pole Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential

'''Diff Ratio''': 7.065:1

'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|left]]

'''Power Rating'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

'''Connectors''':

HV:

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2020-06-21T00:18:23Z

ScottS: Tidied formatting

Forum board: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

'''OEM''': Mitsubishi

'''Manufacturer''': Meidensha - https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html

'''Suppliers''': Ebay, Second Life EV batteries

'''Type''': 10 pole Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential

'''Diff Ratio''': 7.065:1

'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|left]]

'''Power Rating'''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

'''Connectors''':

HV:

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2020-06-21T00:16:48Z

ScottS: Started page on Mitsubishi Outlander Electric Motor

Forum board: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

OEM: Mitsubishi

Manufacturer: Meidensha - https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html

Suppliers: Ebay, Second Life EV batteries

Forum board: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

Type: 10 pole Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential

Diff Ratio: 7.065:1

Example Ebay Listing
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb]]

Power Rating
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| Example || Example || Example || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

Connectors:
HV:
Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU
Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:
R12 - 35,5R Black, White
S13 - 86,4R Green, Red
S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

File:Example Ebay Listing.png

2020-06-21T00:02:02Z

ScottS:

Example of an Ebay listing for a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Rear Differential Electric Motor Unit

Motors

2020-06-20T20:19:49Z

ScottS: /* OEM Motors */ Added Mitsubishi Outlander Rear motor and link

This page is intended as a listing page for available motors suitable for conversion projects. Each listing is planned to lead to a more detailed page regarding the motor.

= OEM Motors =
Taken from existing vehicles
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+
!Picture
!Name/link
!Manufacturer
!Models Found On
!Part No/s
!FWD/RDW/AWD
!Description
|-
|[[File:LEXUS RX 400H 2004-2008 209048010.jpg|none|thumb|200x200px]]
|[[Toyota/Lexus MGR Rear Transaxle Motor]]
|Toyota/Lexus
|
* Alphard/Vellfire ATH20
* Alphard/Vellfire AYH30
* Estima AHR20
* Harrier MHU38
* Harrier AVU65
* Highlander MHU28
* Highlander MHU48
* Highlander GVU48
* Highlander GVU58
* Kluger MHU28
* Lexus RX400h MHU38
* Lexus RX450h GYL15
* Lexus RX450h GYL25
* Lexus NX300h AYZ15
* RAV4 AVA44
|Q211
(2FM - Motor code)
|FWD
AWD

RWD
|Found on numerous Toyota and Lexus models (see list to the left), the MGR (or Motor Generator Rear) is an electric rear differential meant to provide occasional 4WD/AWD to the company's larger 4WD models.

For conversion/project purposes the MGR is suitable for lighter models given the torque available or could potentially be used front and/or rear, and/or with a secondary motor.

As the motor was designed to be used occasionally as a rear motor, there is a need or potential need for cooling dependent on the application.
|-
|
|Lexus GS450h
|Toyota/Lexus
|Lexus GS450h
|L110F
|RWD
|Popular conversion project motor, the GS450h has two motors as part of a gearbox mated to an ICE engine. MG1 and MG2, one of which is generally used to start the ICE, the second used to provide drive to the wheel in electric only mode.

The input shaft from the ICE can be secured and both motors can then be used to drive the output shaft.

The popularity and conversation around it comes from the fact it is likely to occupy the same space as a rear wheel drive gearbox leaving the majority of the engine bay free and obviously joining to the existing rear propshaft.
|-
|
|Lexus RS600h
|Toyota/Lexus
|Lexus RS600h
|
|AWD
|Functionally the same as the GS450h(?) but splits the output front and rear like a traditional 4WD gearbox.
|-
|
|Prius Transaxle
|Toyota/Lexus
|Prius
|
|FWD
|Mated to a transversally mounted front wheel drive ICE, the Prius transaxle has two motors contained with it. MG1 and MG2. One of which is generally used to re/start the ICE motor and the second used to drive the car in electric only mode.

The two motors can be combined for greater power output.

The unit itself lends itself to replace the engine and gearbox from FWD front engined vehicles as it largely occupies a similar space as the existing gearbox and frees the space where the engine would sit.
|-
|
|Nissan Leaf
|Nissan
|Leaf
|
|FWD
|
|-
|
|Tesla Small Drive Unit
|Tesla
|Model S/X
|
|FWD
AWD

RWD
|
|-
|
|Tesla Large Drive Unit
|Tesla
|Model S/X
|
|FWD
AWD

RWD
|
|-
|[[File:Outlander Rear Motor.jpg|thumb]]
|[[Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit]]
|Mitsubishi
|Outlander PHEV
|Y61
|RWD
|This motor is found on the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. It is the motor which drives the rear differential unit. There may be 3 different versions of this motor - 50kW, 60kW and 70kW (from PHEV 2018 on). The same motor may also be used in the i-MiEV.

The Openinverter Forum has a dedicated board here: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
|}

= Generic Motors =
Multiple applications but designed to fit EV use, or fall within power/torque range for use

{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Picture
!Name/link
!Manufacturer
!Part No/s
!Description
|-
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File:Outlander Rear Motor.jpg

2020-06-20T20:13:19Z

ScottS:

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Motor Manufactured by Meidensha, 70kW