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Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2022-03-24T14:42:39Z

SuperV8: updated motor part numbers

'''Forum board''': https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Property
!Value
!Source
|-
|Device
|Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential
|
|-
|OEM
|Mitsubishi
|
|-
|Type
|AC Motor 10 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30
|-
|Manufacturer
|Meidensha
|https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html
|-
|Suppliers
|Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Max RPM
|9600RPM
|
|-
|Mechanical Mounting
|6x M10 Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)
3x M? Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander
|Author experience
|-
|Shaft Type
|20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long
Clutch plate from a Suzuki Jimny SJ410 appears to fit, part number ADK83106
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Resolver
|SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102
Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver
|https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB
|-
|Cooling
|Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander)
|Author experience
|-
|Weight
|42kg
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Power To Weight Ratio
|70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg
|
|-
|Diff Ratio
|7.065:1
|http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9499D146 (01/08/13 > 30/09/17) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9411A078 (01/05/18 > ) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9411A078 (01/05/18 >) GG3W 2400 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|}
'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|none]]

'''Description'''

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.

'''Power Rating'''

It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| TBC - TBC || 50 kW || TBC || Y61
|-
| TBC - 2018 || 60 kW || 195Nm Peak || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include [https://www.mitsubishidirectparts.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-motor-assembly-9411a078 9411A078], 9499D132, 9499D146''',''' and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z

'''Connectors''':

HV: 3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Datasheet: https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: [https://www.mitsubishipartsstore.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-harness-8556a131 8556A131] (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)

'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Face.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Face|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Face]]
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Length.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Length|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Length]]
[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:Mitsubishi]] [[Category:Motor]]

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2022-03-24T14:15:09Z

SuperV8:

'''Forum board''': https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Property
!Value
!Source
|-
|Device
|Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential
|
|-
|OEM
|Mitsubishi
|
|-
|Type
|AC Motor 10 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30
|-
|Manufacturer
|Meidensha
|https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html
|-
|Suppliers
|Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Max RPM
|9600RPM
|
|-
|Mechanical Mounting
|6x M10 Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)
3x M? Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander
|Author experience
|-
|Shaft Type
|20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long
Clutch plate from a Suzuki Jimny SJ410 appears to fit, part number ADK83106
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Resolver
|SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102
Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver
|https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB
|-
|Cooling
|Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander)
|Author experience
|-
|Weight
|42kg
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Power To Weight Ratio
|70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg
|
|-
|Diff Ratio
|7.065:1
|http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A056 (08/01/13 > 04/10/14) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A077 (04/11/14 > 06/30/15) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A100 (07/01/15 > 06/30/16) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A132 (07/01/16 > 04/30/18) GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9411A078 (05/01/18 > ) GG3W 2400 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|}
'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|none]]

'''Description'''

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.

'''Power Rating'''

It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| TBC - TBC || 50 kW || TBC || Y61
|-
| TBC - 2018 || 60 kW || 195Nm Peak || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include [https://www.mitsubishidirectparts.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-motor-assembly-9411a078 9411A078], 9499D132, 9499D146''',''' and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z

'''Connectors''':

HV: 3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Datasheet: https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: [https://www.mitsubishipartsstore.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-harness-8556a131 8556A131] (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)

'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Face.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Face|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Face]]
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Length.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Length|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Length]]
[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:Mitsubishi]] [[Category:Motor]]

Mitsubishi Outlander Rear Drive Unit

2022-03-24T14:13:54Z

SuperV8: Added motor part number

'''Forum board''': https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Property
!Value
!Source
|-
|Device
|Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential
|
|-
|OEM
|Mitsubishi
|
|-
|Type
|AC Motor 10 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30
|-
|Manufacturer
|Meidensha
|https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html
|-
|Suppliers
|Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Max RPM
|9600RPM
|
|-
|Mechanical Mounting
|6x M10 Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)
3x M? Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander
|Author experience
|-
|Shaft Type
|20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long
Clutch plate from a Suzuki Jimny SJ410 appears to fit, part number ADK83106
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Resolver
|SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102
Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver
|https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB
|-
|Cooling
|Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander)
|Author experience
|-
|Weight
|42kg
|https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
|-
|Power To Weight Ratio
|70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg
|
|-
|Diff Ratio
|7.065:1
|http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A056 08/01/13 > 04/10/14 GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A077 04/11/14 > 06/30/15 GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A100 07/01/15 > 06/30/16 GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9410A132 07/01/16 > 04/30/18 GG2W 2000 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|-
|Motor Part Numbers
|9411A078 05/01/18 > GG3W 2400 plug in hybrid
|Mitsubishi Outlander Online Parts Catalogue
|}
'''Example Ebay Listing''':
[[File:Example Ebay Listing.png|thumb|alt=|none]]

'''Description'''

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.

'''Power Rating'''

It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Model Years !! Motor Power !! Motor Torque !! Part Number
|-
| TBC - TBC || 50 kW || TBC || Y61
|-
| TBC - 2018 || 60 kW || 195Nm Peak || Y61
|-
| 2018 - || 70 kW || 195Nm Peak|| Y61
|}

Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include [https://www.mitsubishidirectparts.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-motor-assembly-9411a078 9411A078], 9499D132, 9499D146''',''' and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z

'''Connectors''':

HV: 3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Datasheet: https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: [https://www.mitsubishipartsstore.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-harness-8556a131 8556A131] (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)

'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Face.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Face|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Face]]
[[File:Outlander Rear Motor Length.jpg|alt=Outlander Rear Motor Length|left|thumb|Outlander Rear Motor Length]]
[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:Mitsubishi]] [[Category:Motor]]

Tesla

2021-06-24T08:03:06Z

SuperV8: added Tesla EPC link

* [[Tesla Model S/X Charger]]
* [[Tesla Model S/X Small Front Drive Unit ("SDU")]]
* [[Tesla Model S/X Large Rear Drive Unit ("LDU")]]
* [[Tesla Model 3 Battery]]
* [[Tesla Model 3 Contactors]]
* [[Tesla Model 3 Charger/DCDC ("PCS")]]
* [[Tesla Model 3 Front Drive Unit]]
* [[Tesla Model 3 Rear Drive Unit]]
* [[Tesla CAD Models]]
* [[Tesla model s|Tesla DC/DC converter]]
* [https://epc.tesla.com/en/catalogs Tesla EPC (Electronic Parts Catalogue)]

=== Sourcing Tesla Drive Units ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+2012-2017* Model S/X Drive Units
!Trim Designation
!Front Drive Unit
!Rear Drive Unit
|-
|'''##'''
|''N/A''
|Base LDU
|-
|'''P##'''
|''N/A''
|Sport** LDU
|-
|'''##D'''
|SDU
|SDU
|-
|'''P##D'''
|SDU
|Sport LDU
|-
| colspan="3" |* Depending on the source, in either 2017 or 2019 Tesla began changing drive unit selections in the Model S and X

<nowiki>**</nowiki>UPDATED 6 May 2021: Based on thread found here: [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1625 Teardown - Tesla LDU - Inverter - openinverter forum], the base and sport LDUs use different IGBTs
|}