VW A/C Compressor - Revision history

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2024-12-20T16:19:47Z

Tom91: 3d scan

2024-03-27T17:07:56Z

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	This type of compressor has been widely used in Volkswagen and Audi hybrid vehicles and can be found cheaply.		This type of compressor has been widely used in Volkswagen and Audi hybrid vehicles and can be found cheaply.


			3d Scan: https://grabcad.com/

	== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ==		== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ==

Crasbe: Added Baud Rate to the /* LIN Bus Communication */ section.

2022-07-05T13:53:16Z

Added Baud Rate to the LIN Bus Communication: section.

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	== LIN Bus Communication ==		== LIN Bus Communication ==

			The baud rate of the LIN bus is 19200 baud.<ref>Baud Rate: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=42208#p42208</ref>

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>CAN Bus Commands: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580 Revised: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36543#p36543</ref>		\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>CAN Bus Commands: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580 Revised: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36543#p36543</ref>
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	\|32 (0x20)		\|32 (0x20)
	\|Command to the compressor		\|Command to the compressor
	\|6		\| 6
	\|Enhanced		\|Enhanced
	\|RPM (decimal from 20-250)		\|RPM (decimal from 20-250)
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	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}
	== Electrical Connection<ref>Electrical Connections: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580</ref>==

			==Electrical Connection<ref>Electrical Connections: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580</ref>==
	connectors are:		connectors are:

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	1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN		1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN

	== References ==		== References==
	[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]		[[Category:OEM]]
			[[Category:VAG]]
			[[Category:HVAC]]
	[[Category:Thermal Management]]		[[Category:Thermal Management]]
			<references />

Crasbe: Fixed headings and citations.

2022-04-26T23:43:42Z

Fixed headings and citations.

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	This type of compressor has been widely used in Volkswagen and Audi hybrid vehicles and can be found cheaply.		This type of compressor has been widely used in Volkswagen and Audi hybrid vehicles and can be found cheaply.

	=== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ===		== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ==
	The vehicle, date and refrigerant options have been scavenged from type stickers on compressors in ebay auctions. The list is not complete but supposed to give an overview.		The vehicle, date and refrigerant options have been scavenged from type stickers on compressors in ebay auctions. The list is not complete but supposed to give an overview.
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	Overview of A/C Compressors used		Overview of A/C Compressors used
	!Part Number		!Part Number
	!HW & SW Revision <ref>https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520</ref>		!HW & SW Revision <ref>Hardware and Software Revisions: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520</ref>
	!Vehicles		!Vehicles
	!Years		!Years
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	Generally the switch to R1234yf compatibility was around Juni 2016. The oil used for all compressors is 120ml PAG SP-A2.		Generally the switch to R1234yf compatibility was around Juni 2016. The oil used for all compressors is 120ml PAG SP-A2.

	=== LIN Bus Communication ===		== LIN Bus Communication ==
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>~~Forum Posts~~:		\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>CAN Bus Commands: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580 Revised: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36543#p36543</ref>

	https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580 Revised: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36543#p36543</ref>
	!ID		!ID
	!Description		!Description
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	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}
	=== Electrical Connection<ref>https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580</ref> ===		== Electrical Connection<ref>Electrical Connections: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580</ref>==
	connectors are:		connectors are:

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	1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN		1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN

			== References ==

	[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]		[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]
	[[Category:Thermal Management]]		[[Category:Thermal Management]]

Crasbe: Added the new/corrected information from the forum, adding citations instead of links.

2022-04-26T23:41:34Z

Added the new/corrected information from the forum, adding citations instead of links.

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	Overview of A/C Compressors used		Overview of A/C Compressors used
	!Part Number		!Part Number
	!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]		!HW & SW Revision <ref>https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520</ref>
	!Vehicles		!Vehicles
	!Years		!Years
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	=== LIN Bus Communication ===		=== LIN Bus Communication ===
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]		\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>Forum Posts:

			https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580 Revised: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36543#p36543</ref>
	!ID		!ID
	!Description		!Description
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	\|8		\|8
	\|Enhanced		\|Enhanced
	\|HV OK (0 for ~~voltage~~ < 200V, 1 for ~~voltage~~ > 200V)		\|HV OK:
			0 for V < 200V

			1 for V > 200V
	\|always 112		\|always 112
			\|RPM set from command
			\|110 for V<200V,
			14 for V>200V, AC not running,

			46 for V>200V, AC running
	\|?		\|?
	\|~~RPM set from command~~		\|Temperature:
	~~\|110 for V<200V, 14 for V>200V~~, ~~46 when running~~
	\|0		160 at 24°C,
	\|0
			Scaling unknown
	\|54 at 109V, 28 at 56V 83 at 166V		\|54 at 109V, 28 at 56V 83 at 166V
	scaling: Voltage/2		scaling: Voltage/2
			\|?
	\|-		\|-
	\|32 (0x20)		\|32 (0x20)
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	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}
			=== Electrical Connection<ref>https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580</ref> ===

	=== Electrical Connection [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580] ===
	connectors are:		connectors are:

Jason arnold at 22:40, 22 March 2022

2022-03-22T22:40:37Z

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	[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]		[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]
			[[Category:Thermal Management]]

Crasbe: Fixed categories and remove the ref tags again, since the Cite extension is not installed.

2022-01-06T19:50:25Z

Fixed categories and remove the ref tags again, since the Cite extension is not installed.

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	Overview of A/C Compressors used		Overview of A/C Compressors used
	!Part Number		!Part Number
	!HW & SW Revision ~~<ref>~~[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]~~</ref>~~		!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]
	!Vehicles		!Vehicles
	!Years		!Years
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	=== LIN Bus Communication ===		=== LIN Bus Communication ===
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor ~~<ref>~~[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]~~</ref>~~		\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]
	!ID		!ID
	!Description		!Description
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	=== Electrical Connection ~~<ref>~~[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]~~</ref>~~ ===		=== Electrical Connection [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580] ===
	connectors are:		connectors are:

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	1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN		1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN

	~~<references />~~


	[[~~category:~~:OEM]] [[~~category:~~:VAG]] [[~~category:~~:HVAC]]		[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:VAG]] [[Category:HVAC]]

Crasbe: Added categories and

2022-01-06T19:45:01Z

Added categories and

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	Overview of A/C Compressors used		Overview of A/C Compressors used
	!Part Number		!Part Number
	!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]		!HW & SW Revision <ref>[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]</ref>
	!Vehicles		!Vehicles
	!Years		!Years
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	=== LIN Bus Communication ===		=== LIN Bus Communication ===
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]		\|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor <ref>[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]</ref>
	!ID		!ID
	!Description		!Description
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	=== Electrical Connection [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580] ===		=== Electrical Connection <ref>[https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]</ref> ===
	connectors are:		connectors are:

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	1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN		1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN

			<references />


			[[category::OEM]] [[category::VAG]] [[category::HVAC]]

Crasbe: Added more vehicle information and the oil used.

2022-01-06T16:53:27Z

Added more vehicle information and the oil used.

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	=== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ===		=== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ===
	The vehicle, date and refrigerant options have been scavenged from type stickers on compressors in ebay auctions.		The vehicle, date and refrigerant options have been scavenged from type stickers on compressors in ebay auctions. The list is not complete but supposed to give an overview.
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
	\|+		\|+
			Overview of A/C Compressors used
	!Part Number		!Part Number
	!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]		!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]
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	\|12E820803E		\|12E820803E
	\|HW 2 - SW 5		\|HW 2 - SW 5
	\|VW Passat B8 GTE		\|Audi A3 1.4 TFST e-tron
	\|09.2015		VW Passat B8 GTE
			\|03.2015, 09.2015
	06.2016		06.2016
	\|R134a		\|R134a
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	\|HW 2 - SW 7		\|HW 2 - SW 7
	\|Audi A3 1.4 TFSI e-tron		\|Audi A3 1.4 TFSI e-tron
	VW Golf VII GTE,		VW Golf VII GTE

			VW Passat B8 GTE
	\|03.2015, 11.2015		\|03.2015, 11.2015
	09.2016, 06.2017		08.2016, 08.2017
	\|R134a		\|R134a
	R134a, R1234yf		R134a, R1234yf
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	\|HW 2 - SW 7		\|HW 2 - SW 7
	\|		\|
	\|		\|07.2018
	\|		\|R134a, R1234yf
	\|-		\|-
	\|5QE816803H		\|5QE816803H
	\|HW 3 - SW 9		\|HW 3 - SW 9
	\|		\|VW Passat B8 GTE
	\|
	\|		\|01.2016

			\|R134a

	\|-		\|-
	\|		\|
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	\|		\|
	\|}		\|}
			Generally the switch to R1234yf compatibility was around Juni 2016. The oil used for all compressors is 120ml PAG SP-A2.

	=== LIN Bus Communication ===		=== LIN Bus Communication ===

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2022-01-06T16:19:15Z

Create page with initial information

New page

This type of compressor has been widely used in Volkswagen and Audi hybrid vehicles and can be found cheaply.

=== Part Numbers, Revisions and Refrigerant ===
The vehicle, date and refrigerant options have been scavenged from type stickers on compressors in ebay auctions.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Part Number
!HW & SW Revision [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35520#p35520]
!Vehicles
!Years
!Refrigerant
|-
| colspan="5" |'''12E820803x'''
|-
|12E820803B
|HW 4 - SW 4
|VW e-Golf VII, VW e-Up
|05.2014,
|R134a
|-
|12E820803C
|HW 4 - SW 7
|Audi A3 1.4 TFSI e-tron
|12.2013, 03.2014
|R134a
|-
|12E820803D
|HW 5 - SW 4
|Audi A3 1.4 TFSI e-tron

??
|07.2015
07.2018
|R134a
R134a, R1234yf
|-
|12E820803E
|HW 2 - SW 5
|VW Passat B8 GTE
|09.2015
06.2016
|R134a
R134a, R1234yf
|-
| colspan="5" |'''5QE816803x'''
|-
|5QE816803
|HW 2 - SW 7
|Audi A3 1.4 TFSI e-tron
VW Golf VII GTE,
|03.2015, 11.2015
09.2016, 06.2017
|R134a
R134a, R1234yf
|-
|5QE816803A
|HW 3 - SW 9
|
|
|
|-
|5QE816803C
|HW 2 - SW 6
|
|01.2018
|R134a, R1234yf
|-
|5QE816803D
|HW 2 - SW 8
|
|
|
|-
|5QE816803F
|HW 2 - SW 7
|
|
|
|-
|5QE816803H
|HW 3 - SW 9
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|
|}

=== LIN Bus Communication ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+Control and Answer Messages to/from the Compressor [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580]
!ID
!Description
!Length
!Checksum Type
!Byte 0
!Byte 1
!Byte 2
!Byte 3
!Byte 4
!Byte 5
!Byte 6
!Byte 7
|-
|31 (0x61)
|Answer from the compressor
|8
|Enhanced
|HV OK (0 for voltage < 200V, 1 for voltage > 200V)
|always 112
|?
|RPM set from command
|110 for V<200V, 14 for V>200V, 46 when running
|0
|0
|54 at 109V, 28 at 56V 83 at 166V
scaling: Voltage/2
|-
|32 (0x20)
|Command to the compressor
|6
|Enhanced
|RPM (decimal from 20-250)
|Bit 0: Start, Bit 2: Activate
|0
|0
|0
|0
|
|
|}

=== Electrical Connection [https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25580#p25580] ===
connectors are:

HVA 280 KEY_D from TE +HV left side (near to the 12V conn.), -HV right side (far from the 12V conn)

1J0973714 8= +12V , 5= GND, 2= LIN

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	== References==		== References==
	~~[[Category:OEM]]~~		[[Category:VAG]]
	[[Category:VAG]]
	~~[[Category:HVAC]]~~
	~~[[Category:Thermal Management~~]]
	<references />		<references />
			[[Category:AC Compressor]]