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Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include [https://www.mitsubishipartssource.com/p/Mitsubishi__Outlander-PHEV/Drive-Motor/71956333/9411A078.html 9411A078], 9499D132, 9499D146''',''' and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z
Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include [https://www.mitsubishidirectparts.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-motor-assembly-9411a078 9411A078], 9499D132, 9499D146''',''' and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z


'''Connectors''':
'''Connectors''':
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S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue
S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue
Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: [https://www.mitsubishipartsstore.com/oem-parts/mitsubishi-harness-8556a131 8556A131] (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)


'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''
'''Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:'''


http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/2019_phev/index_M1.htm
http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm


== Links ==
== Links ==
Other [[Mistubishi]] OEM Parts on Open Inverter
Other [[Mistubishi]] OEM Parts on Open Inverter

Revision as of 02:51, 14 January 2021

Forum board: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

Property Value Source
Device Combined Motor, Gearbox and Rear Differential
OEM Mitsubishi
Type AC Motor 10 Pole 3 Phase synchronous perm magnet brushless https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html

https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=325&start=30

Manufacturer Meidensha https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html
Suppliers Ebay, Second Life EV Batteries https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
Max RPM 9600RPM
Mechanical Mounting 6x M10 Bolt front face flange (all in same plane)

3x M? Bolt Rear Flange (all in same plane) used for bush mount on Outlander

Author experience
Shaft Type 20.02mm 18 splines, ~60mm long

Clutch plate from a Suzuki Jimny SJ410 appears to fit, part number ADK83106

https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
Resolver SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102

Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB
Cooling Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander) Author experience
Weight 42kg https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-9300rpm.html
Power To Weight Ratio 70kW Motor: 1.66 kW/kg
Diff Ratio 7.065:1 http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.hk/uploads/file_1465376705.pdf

Example Ebay Listing:

Description

The Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid) uses 3x AC motor/generators - 2 in the front gearbox (One is designated as a generator) and 1 in the rear. The rear motor appears to be the more powerful of the 3, and it is coupled to a rear differential unit which is mounted underneath the vehicle. The Rear differential has female driveshaft splines and a ratio of 7.065:1. The motor is driven by a dedicated rear inverter unit, and the combined system appears to have different power ratings in different model years. The whole unit could lend itself well to rear engined/rear wheel drive EV conversion applications - e.g. Toyota MR2, VW Beetle, rear engined Porsches, Lotus. The Motor can also be easily decoupled from the Gearbox/Differential unit and with an adaptor plate and coupling could be used on either Front wheel drive applications, or Front engined, rear wheel drive. There are already some examples of the drive being used with the OpenInverter, and also with the OEM motor inverter.

Power Rating

It is possible that the motor is the same for all model years (all use the Y61 designation) and either inverter is different or increased power output is from software only. 2018 models have 13.6kWh battery rather than 12kWh.

Model Years Motor Power Motor Torque Part Number
TBC - TBC 50 kW TBC Y61
TBC - 2018 60 kW 195Nm Peak Y61
2018 - 70 kW 195Nm Peak Y61

Mitsubishi/FUSO part numbers include 9411A078, 9499D132, 9499D146, and MEIDEN part numbers include F1E1A2B5Z

Connectors:

HV: 3x 3 phase lug connections with HV gland plate

Resolver/Temperature sensor: Hirose GT18WB-14DS-HU

Datasheet: https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en

Resolver Connector Colours/Resistance:

R12 - 35,5R Black, White

S13 - 86,4R Green, Red

S24 - 78,5R Yelow, Blue

Resolver/Temperature sensor OEM cable/harness part number: 8556A131 (can be used as a source for the connector if stock of the Hirose connector isn't available)

Vehicle Wiring Diagrams:

http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_phev/online/Service_Manual_2014/2019/index_M1.htm

Links

Other Mistubishi OEM Parts on Open Inverter