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|1x Resolver/Motor Temperature sensor interface | |1x Resolver/Motor Temperature sensor interface | ||
Hirose GT18WB-14DP-HU - 14 way proprietary connector | Hirose GT18WB-14DP-HU - 14 way proprietary connector<ref>Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10214#p10214</ref> | ||
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* Electrical Parking Driver Unit | * Electrical Parking Driver Unit | ||
* Battery Management Unit | * Battery Management Unit | ||
Can Bus Topology | Can Bus Topology <ref>http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/img/54/ACC07461AB00ENG.pdf</ref> | ||
PHEV-ECU Handles the whole hybrid system management including drive mode, system torque distribution and battery management | PHEV-ECU Handles the whole hybrid system management including drive mode, system torque distribution and battery management | ||
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====RSDN - REMCU shut-down signal==== | ====RSDN - REMCU shut-down signal==== | ||
RSDN is a signal from the PHEV-ECU and is referred to as "REMCU shut-down signal" as part of the "Rear Motor Shutdown Circuit". It seems to be the equivalent of the MSDN signal from the PHEV-ECU to the Front Motor Controller. | RSDN is a signal from the PHEV-ECU and is referred to as "REMCU shut-down signal" as part of the "Rear Motor Shutdown Circuit". It seems to be the equivalent of the MSDN signal from the PHEV-ECU to the Front Motor Controller. | ||
The RSDN signal could be used as a safety circuit. In normal operation, it should be pulled to low (1V or less). | The RSDN signal could be used as a safety circuit. In normal operation, it should be pulled to low (1V or less).<ref>Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27785#p27785</ref> | ||
====CAEH & CAEL - CAN Communication==== | ====CAEH & CAEL - CAN Communication==== | ||
Standard CAN bus, Baudrate xxxkBaud?? | Standard CAN bus, Baudrate xxxkBaud?? | ||
===Diagnostic Codes | ===Diagnostic Codes <ref>http://mmc-autoelectric.org.ua/manuals/eur/outlander/2014/54/html/M154930060010800ENG.HTM</ref>=== | ||
====P1048 - Rear motor shutdown circuit | ====P1048 - Rear motor shutdown circuit <ref>http://mmc-autoelectric.org.ua/manuals/eur/outlander/2014/54/html/M154923250001700ENG.HTM</ref>==== | ||
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The PHEV-ECU stores diagnosis code No. P1048 when the rear motor shut down circuit fails. | The PHEV-ECU stores diagnosis code No. P1048 when the rear motor shut down circuit fails. | ||
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However, If one wished to take the whole Hybrid system including the PHEV-ECU for an EV conversion, this would be more challenging as the PHEV-ECU appears to require authentication with the OSS-ECU (One Touch Start ECU) and the KOS-ECU (Keyless entry) | However, If one wished to take the whole Hybrid system including the PHEV-ECU for an EV conversion, this would be more challenging as the PHEV-ECU appears to require authentication with the OSS-ECU (One Touch Start ECU) and the KOS-ECU (Keyless entry) | ||
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[[Category:OEM]] [[Category:Mitsubishi]] [[Category:Inverter]] | [[Category:OEM]] [[Category:Mitsubishi]] [[Category:Inverter]] | ||
Revision as of 22:53, 21 August 2022
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| Property | Value | Source |
|---|---|---|
| Device | Inverter | |
| OEM | Mitsubishi | |
| Type | 3 phase Motor inverter/controller & HV DC Junction Box | |
| Part Number(s) | 9410A067, 9410A081, 9499D140, 9410A163 | |
| Mitsubishi Module Name | REMCU | http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/img/90/HKAF0E02CC00ENG.pdf |
| Manufacturer | Meidensha | https://www.meidensha.com/products/case/prod_05/prod_05_01/prod_05_01_01/prod_05_01_01_01/1210605_4260.html |
| Suppliers | Ebay | |
| Voltage | 300V DC Nominal supply voltage
(336V Max according to max battery voltage) |
Based on Mitsubishi Outlander Pack voltage and data from here for maximum voltage: |
| Interfaces | 1x Resolver/Motor Temperature sensor interface
Hirose GT18WB-14DP-HU - 14 way proprietary connector[1] Black 1x 12V Power/CAN Bus Interface Hirose GT18WB-14P-HU - 14 way proprietary connector Grey 1x DC Bus Input - M10 Bolts with gland plate 1x 30A Fused DC Bus Junction Output - M10 Bolts with gland plate 1x 3 Phase motor output - M10 Bolts with gland plate |
https://www.hirose.com/product/document?clcode=&productname=&series=GT18W&documenttype=Catalog&lang=en&documentid=D49386_en |
| Mechanical Mounting | 3x Lugs around lower face, M10 bolts multiple locations | Author experience |
| Resolver | Presumably matched to resolver on Outlander Rear Motor
SIN COS - P/N C69600/TS2239N484E102 Believed to be similar to Nissan Leaf resolver |
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMNz2BVPSATZFJxgwIvy0RAeNAwn0TLJJL7NBwxbpH32LbWNkGhybiNrdkTsTOLxg?key=TmNWY04zNFQ4cXZzNWUzUEJfcTZUeGtHVkxyZEtB |
| Cooling | Water/glycol cooling (Blue on Outlander) | Author experience |
| Power | Unknown if continuous duty is based on inverter or motor thermal capability
70kW Peak 25kW Continuous |
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| Weight | 9kg | Author experience |
| Features | Integral 3-way DC fused Junction box (1 input, 2 fused outputs)
Water cooled 2x Coil temperature sensors |
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| Wiring Diagram | http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/img/90/HKAF0E02CC00ENG.pdf | Navigate From:http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/2019_phev/index_M1.htm
Click 90-CIRCUIT DIAGRAMS and then ELECTRIC MOTOR UNIT CONTROL SYSTEM |
Vehicle Topology
Rear Motor Inverter (REMCU) is on EV-CAN with the following modules:
- PHEV-ECU (Also on CAN-C, gatewayed through ETACS-ECU to CAN-C-Mid)
- Front Power Drive Unit
- Onboard charger/DC-DC Converter
- A/C Compressor
- Electrical Parking Driver Unit
- Battery Management Unit
Can Bus Topology [2]
PHEV-ECU Handles the whole hybrid system management including drive mode, system torque distribution and battery management
Wiring Diagram
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Wiring diagram to the right.
It would appear that there are 4 unused pins on the Vehicle Connector (D-211).
IGCT - ECU control power supply voltage
IGCT appears to be main ignition control relay - 12V
This is the supply voltage for the REMCU and should be supplied with battery voltage when turned on.
RSDN - REMCU shut-down signal
RSDN is a signal from the PHEV-ECU and is referred to as "REMCU shut-down signal" as part of the "Rear Motor Shutdown Circuit". It seems to be the equivalent of the MSDN signal from the PHEV-ECU to the Front Motor Controller. The RSDN signal could be used as a safety circuit. In normal operation, it should be pulled to low (1V or less).[3]
CAEH & CAEL - CAN Communication
Standard CAN bus, Baudrate xxxkBaud??
Diagnostic Codes [4]
P1048 - Rear motor shutdown circuit [5]
The PHEV-ECU stores diagnosis code No. P1048 when the rear motor shut down circuit fails.
Check the wiring harness between PHEV-ECU (RSDN terminal) connector and the rear EMCU (RSDN terminal) connector.
Communication Protocol
CAN Bus with fallback to LIN and K-Line according to service manual
Authentication
The REMCU does not appear to require authentication with other modules, meaning it is a good candidate for stand-alone use from this point of view.
However, If one wished to take the whole Hybrid system including the PHEV-ECU for an EV conversion, this would be more challenging as the PHEV-ECU appears to require authentication with the OSS-ECU (One Touch Start ECU) and the KOS-ECU (Keyless entry)
References
- ↑ Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=10214#p10214
- ↑ http://mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/outlander_iii/online/Service_Manual_2013/img/54/ACC07461AB00ENG.pdf
- ↑ Forum Reference: https://openinverter.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27785#p27785
- ↑ http://mmc-autoelectric.org.ua/manuals/eur/outlander/2014/54/html/M154930060010800ENG.HTM
- ↑ http://mmc-autoelectric.org.ua/manuals/eur/outlander/2014/54/html/M154923250001700ENG.HTM