Mitsubishi Outlander Front Transaxle: Difference between revisions
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It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html | It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html | ||
Interestingly they claim it as 70kw, where as the motor as 60kw, both weigh the same. | |||
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|This only have the 2 phase coil sensors and is lacking the oil temperature sensor. | |||
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Revision as of 10:13, 3 August 2020
Gearbox
| Weight | TBC |
| Motor - Differential ratio | 9.663 |
| Generator - Engine ratio | 2.736 |
| Engine - Differential ratio | 3.425 |
| Item | N·m |
|---|---|
| Drain plug | 35 ± 4 |
| Filler plug (the underside) | 32 ± 2 |
| Filler plug (the upper side) | 35 ± 4 |
| Break off bolt <Vehicles for England> | 7.5 ± 1.5 |
| Electrical parking actuator mounting bolts | 28 ± 4 |
| Valve body assembly mounting bolts | 9.0 ± 2.0 |
| Plug(Valve body) | 7.0 ± 1.0 |
| Connector mounting bolts | 7.0 ± 1.0 |
The 'generator'
It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/70kw-ev-motor-with-14000rpm.html
Interestingly they claim it as 70kw, where as the motor as 60kw, both weigh the same.
| Weight | 29.5kg |
| Type | Permanent Magnet Synchronous |
| Max RPM | 14k (According to SLEVB) |
| Power | 70Kw (According to SLEVB) but I suspect it's the same as the motor based on them weighing the same. |
| Manufacturer | Meiden |
| Manufacturer Part | |
| Suggested Firmware | Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware |
| Resolver Pole Count | 10 (5 Pole Pairs) *assumed and seems to work with this setting in inverter params |
| Resolver Part number | C88691 / TS2239N484E102 (Tamagawa E102 series) |
| Looks to be a custom VR Type Resolver https://www.tamagawa-seiki.com/products/resolver-synchro/vr-type-resolver-singlsyn.html | |
| Motor Pole Count | 10 (5 Pole Pairs) *assumed and seems to work with the setting in the inverter params |
| Temperature Sensors | This has 2 temperature sensors on 2 of the phase coils and also an oil temperature sensor. |
[attachment=1]6-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png[/attachment]
Pin 11 GTH1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (+ve) Pin 12: GTH2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (+ve) Pin 13: TH0 - oil temperature thermistor (+ve) Pin 14: GTG1 - temperature in the U-phase coil (-ve) Pin 15: GTG2 - temperature in the W-phase coil (-ve) Pin 16: TG0 - oil temperature thermistor (-ve)
[attachment=0]8-pin-outlander-phev-motor-connector.png[/attachment]
Pin 1: R1 - the first connection for the exciter coil Pin 2: S1 - the first connector for output coil 1 Pin 3: S2 - the first connector for output coil 2 (S2-1) Pin 4: R2 - the second connection for the exciter coil Pin 5: S3 - the second connection for output coil 1 (S1-2) Pin 6: S4 - the second connection for output coil 2 (S2-2) Pin 7: GGND - earth connection to the ECU
The motor
It looks like this is the motor that is sold by SLEVB as https://www.secondlife-evbatteries.com/meiden-ev-motor-60kw-14000rpm-electric-project-emrax-replacement.html
| Weight | 29.5kg |
| Type | Permanent Magnet Synchronous |
| Max RPM | 14k (According to SLEVB) |
| Power | 60Kw (According to SLEVB) |
| Manufacturer | Meiden |
| Manufacturer Part | S61 |
| Suggested Firmware | Use Field Orientated Control (FOC) firmware |
| Resolver Pole Count | 10 (5 Pole Pairs) *assumed and seems to work with this setting in inverter params |
| Resolver Part number | C88691 / TS2239N484E102 (Tamagawa E102 series) |
| Looks to be a custom VR Type Resolver https://www.tamagawa-seiki.com/products/resolver-synchro/vr-type-resolver-singlsyn.html | |
| Motor Pole Count | 10 (5 Pole Pairs) *assumed and seems to work with the setting in the inverter params |
| Temperature Sensor | This only have the 2 phase coil sensors and is lacking the oil temperature sensor. |
Output Shafts
The generator and motor have a 19mm output shaft with 17 splines. This is a very close fit for the Ford Fiesta clutch. Model number 8V21-7550-DE or G44BA.
User @bexander points to https://aftermarket.zf.com/go/en/sachs/catalogs/#/ which shows that this fitting is common to a wide range of Ford and Mazda part numbers.
FORD
1518195, 1529952, 1576249, 1678827, 1708209, 1804545, 1805271, 1826509, 1852056, 2115219, 2245763, 8V21-7540-DA, 8V21-7540-DB, 8V21-7540-DC, 8V21-7540-DD, 8V21-7540-DE, 8V21-7540-DF, 8V21-7540-DG, 8V21-7540-FA, 8V21-7550-DE, 8V21-7563-DD, RM8V21-7540-DF, RM8V21-7540-DG, RM8V21-7540-FA
MAZDA
Y604-16-490, Y604-16-490A, Y604-16-490B, Y604-16-490C, Y604-16-490D, Y604-16-490E
