Hey folks,
it's been some time. Sadly, I couldn't spend much of it on the StreetScooter, but I found out some things that are worth mentioning.
First, my work on the parking pawl motor seems to have helped, but not quite always. Sometimes, it still locks up. The motor simply seems underpowered. If I had some time, I'd love to build a reducer gear that sits between the motor and the existing gears to increase the torque. But that's got to wait, since other things have higher priority for me.
Speaking of higher priority, I got some weird behaviour of the HVJB inside the battery. I verified that when charging is activated, there is no voltage on the HV line to the OBC (except for the weirdness, more on that later).
To remedy this temporarily, I had the idea to connect the original OBC to the heater HV wires, since the circuity in the HVJB is pretty much the same for the heater and the OBC, so I thought I could charge by simply activating the heater while charging to get that contactor to close. Sadly, that didn't work. I didn't even get to connect them up, since I couldn't measure any voltage on the heater HV wires either (when connected up, the heater also doesn't seem to work). And I know it was working before! It really bugs me that I can't figure this out.
Interestingly, in both cases (OBC and heater), when the contactors closed, I could measure short blips of voltage (around 10-30V) on my multimeter. This feels really weird to me. Because it has to mean that something is happening on the wires, right? Sadly, I can't remember the wiring inside the HVJB
and my phone with the pictures is a few hundred kilometers away right now. EDIT: I was wrong, I also took pictures with my other phone.
Heye wrote: ↑Sat Jun 07, 2025 10:12 pm
That's it for now! At some point, I might post about the insides of the HV box, but for now I want to focus on charging and balancing the modules. Tomorrow, I will start designing a safe connector.
Oh, well...
It might be possible that the HVJB is wired up in a way that would allow me to take negative/positive from the inverter wires and the opposite from the OBC wires, bypassing a broken (or non-activating) contactor, if there is one. I think I recall some weirdness in the HVJB circuit that might allow me to do that. The only effect should be that voltage to the OBC isn't cut when driving, which the e-Golf with the same OBC doesn't do anyways, so it shouldn't matter much? I still would like to avoid doing it, since it feels quite sketchy.
Another idea would be to connect the OBC directly to the inverter and build some electronics that connect to the charge port, the OBC, the cooling pump and the rest of the car. This would allow me to charge relatively normally (at least without an external charger and sketchy wiring), I would have a lot of control over the process and it might allow me to add Foccci later on. But the BMS still wouldn't be balancing after completing the charge, which is actually the main feature I want, because the cells still drift badly (on a positive note, it only seems to happen when 12V power is on, so it's likely just the badly designed BMS and not heater cells). Also, I would lose amperage control by the BMS.
If I were to drop the battery again (which I really would like to avoid, since at this time of the year you can only do it inside, which would be a problem in and of itself, since I don't have a place like that, I would likely have to leave the battery out of the car for some time and I would subject that place to liability concerns, since I'm not HV certified), I could investigate the contactors and the BMS control board more closely. If it's just a bad contactor, it would be an easy fix. But it doesn't seem to me like that's the case. Maybe there's a way I can test the contactors without dropping the pack. If I dropped the pack, I would have to at least extend the signal wires, so I can control the battery from the car and I would have to work under live voltage the whole time. I think I could do it safely, but it would suck very much. I really want to avoid doing that.
Alternatively, I could try to get a hold of a second battery pack (or even only the BMS controller board) and work on that without having the car attached at all. I might be able to write a new firmware for the BMS controller or, failing that, design a new board. This would have the advantages that I would also have a lot of control, wouldn't have to work with live voltage at all and I would likely do a better job than the original developers. Also, this would be the first step towards a LiFePo4 conversion that I would like to do anyways at some point. Of course, it would be difficult to do this legally. And if I had a second battery / a second BMS controller, why not swap it and simply have a fully operational
battlestation car again? (Apart from the encryption issues, of course)
I could still go to the authorized workshop and let them have a look at it. I could also contact the manufacturer again. But remembering how uncooperative they were the last time I tried that, I don't want to. Maybe I should still do so, at least because of the whacky BMS. But how would I explain that I know the BMS is hurting the pack when I'm not even supposed to know the voltages? I think it's simply out of the question. I wish so much we had a right to repair for vehicles. Oh, well...
By the way, here are some other things I found out:
- Most (all?) of the flat plastic parts were made by VACU-form. They have a contract with DHL fleet maintenance and will not produce spare parts for other customers. That sucks, but at least re-making these parts from fiberglass (or even repairing them) shouldn't be too hard
- The Bosch SMG180 was discontinued for on-road applications, but continues to be offered for off-highway use. I think the parts have different type numbers, but they are supposed to me mechanically and electrically identical
- The connectors on the inverter and OBC are now confirmed to be HVA280. Key A on the inverter, Key D on the OBC. Does anyone know a good place to get them? TE won't send samples to individuals and single-unit prices on most sites are a total rip-off, if even offered at all. Also, I would have to get specialty crimping equipment to do make proper cables
- I think taking of the end caps of the plugs may have been unnecessary. As long as you can press the outer orange lever down, you should be able to pull the plug out for a few millimeters, press the slider down and fully remove the plug
EDIT:
I did find some pictures and managed to piece together a quick and dirty schematic of the HVJB. Looks quite clean, to be honest. So far, I will be able to test or bypass (obviously in a safe way) the fuses without dropping the pack, but not the contactors.