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Signal pin can be provided a 12v PWM to control the speed<ref>https://www.cascadiamotion.com/images/documents/Bosch_PCE-XL_Quick_Start_Guide.pdf</ref>
Signal pin can be provided a 12v PWM to control the speed<ref>https://www.cascadiamotion.com/images/documents/Bosch_PCE-XL_Quick_Start_Guide.pdf</ref>
== Mounting ==
One application (i.e. Cascadia Motion) simply uses a massive (as in 80mm diameter) "p clamp" to secure the pump. For those for something more secure/OE: [https://www.printables.com/model/1013391-bosch-pce-coolant-pump-bracket Bosch PCE Coolant Pump Bracket.]


= References =
= References =

Revision as of 08:24, 22 September 2024

Important Note on Bosch vs VW pumps

Although both companies use pumps from the "PCE"-series, a closer look at the pump connector reveals an important difference: Bosch pumps have the key nearer to the centre (pin 2) and have the pinout 1 (gnd), 2 (signal), 3 (12V). By contrast, VW pumps have the key closer to the leftmost pin (pin 1) and have the pinout 1 (gnd), 2 (12V), 3 (signal). Also note that, although both brands have "Bosch" on the label, the VW-branded ones also have a "VW-AG" marking.

Connector Part Numbers [1][2]

VW pumps

Pigtail

  • VW: 4F0 973 703

Housing

  • TE Connectivity "MCON 1.2" series: 1488991-5 (key A)
  • Molex "MXP120" series: 34900-3101 (key A)

Terminals

  • Bosch: 1 928 498 811
  • Tyco/Molex MCON 1.2" series: 1670146-3 – Ag plated (20awg)
  • KOSTAL MLK 1.2: 32124734130

Seal

  • Bosch: 1 928 300 936
  • TE Connectivity: 967067-1 (20 awg)
  • KOSTAL: 10800507250

Pinout

VW 04L 965 567 pump. Note the pinout and the position of the key vs the Bosch-branded pump.

Bosch pumps

Housing

  • TE Connectivity "MCON 1.2" series: 1488991-6 (key B)
  • Molex "MXP120" series: 34900-3102 (key B)

Terminals

  • Bosch: 1 928 498 811
  • Tyco/Molex MCON 1.2" series: 1670146-3 – Ag plated (20awg)
  • KOSTAL MLK 1.2: 32124734130

Seal

  • Bosch: 1 928 300 936
  • TE Connectivity: 967067-1 (20 awg)
  • KOSTAL: 10800507250

Pinout

Bosch-branded PCE pump pinout (**not for VW**)

Operation

Pump can be run without the signal (S) pin connected. This will operate the pump at maximum speed. There is a 2 second startup delay if the pump is to be operated without the signal (S) pin connected.

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If the pump detects that it is being run dry, it will turn itself off, try again, but will quit if unsuccessful >20 times

Signal pin can be provided a 12v PWM to control the speed[3]

Mounting

One application (i.e. Cascadia Motion) simply uses a massive (as in 80mm diameter) "p clamp" to secure the pump. For those for something more secure/OE: Bosch PCE Coolant Pump Bracket.

References