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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:33 pm
by Bratitude
Okay so outlander obc
you have the proximity from the charge port to an analog input on the zombie and the prams set accordingly?

And the control pilot from the charge port to pin 9(blue?) on the harness to the outlander obc?

have you tired to charger befor going into run mode?

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:29 pm
by Gregski
OK, so got the charging workings, yes all by myself, by simply following exactly precisely the steps from the boys on Mr. Damien Maguire's best kept secret Discord Server which you can get access to by supporting him on EVBMW Damien Maguire where you can show your support for him creating Open Source Electric Vehicle Projects!


Super Thanks to the Fellas on the Discord Server I appreciate you too much !!!


The Zombie will go into Charge mode without the Control Pilot signal connected and even without the J1772 hair dryer plug plugged into the charge port, so just be aware of this.
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One way to tell if the CAN communication is working is to look for some charger Spot Values such as charger temp and U12V (U=Volts) and I12V (I=amps) which tell you the DC-DC converter part of the charger is charging the regular 12v car battery.
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That's Level 2 charging which just means at 240 volts
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It don't have to be the Science of Rockets, here I am just using a regular clothes dryer outlet that i added an extension to, and we converted our clothes dryer from electric to gas, so this is always available
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Charging Gauges
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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:00 am
by Alibro
Gregski wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:29 pm It don't have to be the Science of Rockets, here I am just using a regular clothes dryer outlet that i added an extension to, and we converted our clothes dryer from electric to gas, so this is always available
You have a petrol clothes dryer??????

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:57 am
by johu

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:41 pm
by Gregski
johu wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:57 am Yes

viewtopic.php?p=71436&hilit=Dryer+gas#p71436
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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:48 pm
by Gregski
Alibro wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:00 am You have a petrol clothes dryer??????
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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:53 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:48 pm stove dryer.jpg
I would think land of the free, home of the barbecue would actually put barbecue plate on top to save you from those rainy days 8-) .

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:57 pm
by Gregski
arber333 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:53 pm I would think land of the free, home of the barbecue would actually put barbecue plate on top to save you from those rainy days 8-) .

ha ha, speaking of freedom: A US federal agency is considering a ban on gas stoves

you can't make this stuff up people!

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:33 pm
by Gregski
EV Rabbit Followers: Greg, you've installed everything, you've connected everything, what's stopping you from driving the Rabbit on the road?

The Greg: [as my old co worker used to say:] Few problems, nothing minor!


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you can hear both noises in the latest videos
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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:03 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:57 pm ha ha, speaking of freedom: A US federal agency is considering a ban on gas stoves

you can't make this stuff up people!
Hm...i guess we are at war with out goverment...let them try that with veritable barbecue stoves... you guys would really go up in arms then!

I remember couple of years back they did something similar to water sources and home gardens in Slovenia. People just went to the street and in couple of hours they pulled legislation back.

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:11 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 3:33 pm EV Rabbit Followers: Greg, you've installed everything, you've connected everything, what's stopping you from driving the Rabbit on the road?

The Greg: [as my old co worker used to say:] Few problems, nothing minor!



problems.jpg


you can hear both noises in the latest videos

Problems List.jpg
Hm... i seem to remember in my Pug i did a stupid mistake in calculating driveshaft lengths and LH driveshaft was too long. When driving the tripod bearings would rub against casing. I had to cut down and reweld LH driveshaft :(.

You can test this by lifting one side BY THE FRONT ARM KNUCKLE so wheel is still loaded by car weight even when the wheel is up and free. Then you try if it revolves freely or if something snaggs up...

Edit: Or did you check if one of the parking brakes siezed up'?

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:51 pm
by Gregski
arber333 wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:11 pm Hm... i seem to remember in my Pug i did a stupid mistake in calculating driveshaft lengths and LH driveshaft was too long. When driving the tripod bearings would rub against casing. I had to cut down and reweld LH driveshaft :(.

You can test this by lifting one side BY THE FRONT ARM KNUCKLE so wheel is still loaded by car weight even when the wheel is up and free. Then you try if it revolves freely or if something snaggs up...

Edit: Or did you check if one of the parking brakes siezed up'?

thank you so much, all great advice, allow me to take it from the easiest to test first, so first up is the parking brake / emergency brake, or as sum call it the hand brake


Is my Parking Brake Dragging? VW Rabbit Electric

FYI, the castle nut is on hand tight as per installation instructions and I did that when I freshened up the rear brakes a few months ago.


Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:04 pm
by Gregski
well well well, dingle dangle, wobble wobble



Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:56 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 7:04 pm well well well, dingle dangle, wobble wobble
Even worse... you could have been overtaken by that wheel on your way to the peak... :twisted:

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:12 pm
by Gregski
Electric Voltswagen Rabbit More Better First Drive



Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:49 pm
by arber333
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:12 pm Electric Voltswagen Rabbit More Better First Drive
Well done!

Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:55 pm
by Gregski
MattsAwesomeStuff wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:40 pm I'm uncomfortable celebrating by the inches here. What is this, a celebration for ants? We are being trained to underwhelm ourselves.

Let's get this sumbitch rollin' so we celebrate the success all at once!

Do a burnout!
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Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:02 pm
by Woodfie
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:51 pm thank you so much, all great advice, allow me to take it from the easiest to test first, so first up is the parking brake / emergency brake, or as sum call it the hand brake


Is my Parking Brake Dragging? VW Rabbit Electric

FYI, the castle nut is on hand tight as per installation instructions and I did that when I freshened up the rear brakes a few months ago.

Doesn't seem too bad, keep a temp check on it.
Use finger carefully, if that is your only instrument.!!

Re: [FIRST DRIVE] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:11 pm
by Woodfie
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:12 pm Electric Voltswagen Rabbit More Better First Drive


Excellent work, the stutter noise as just before pulling up, sounds a bit like drivetrain/ backlash/ inertia possibly.
Some massaging of or turn off the regen might influence it..

Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:17 pm
by Woodfie
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:55 pmIMG_5576.JPG
Good to See Still into Baby Steps... !!

Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:29 pm
by Gregski
Woodfie wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:50 am Yes, title 192.168.4.1/gauges.html?items=

Appears, but as yet a blank page.

sorry I did not answer this earlier, it appears that we must select the Spot Values we want to appear on the gauge page using the little check boxes, and I don't think it matters if we check the l or r column, it's actually pretty cool since it is dynamic and fully customizable

Example: here I select the l check box for the Version, and the r check box for the battery voltage aka udc2

Spot Values Gauges 1 arrow.jpg

and this is the result, note the URL see how now it passed these parameters to the next page?
Spot Values Gauges 2 arrow.jpg

Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:57 pm
by Woodfie
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:29 pm sorry I did not answer this earlier, it appears that we must select the Spot Values we want to appear on the gauge page using the little check boxes, and I don't think it matters if we check the l or r column, it's actually pretty cool since it is dynamic and fully customizable

Example: here I select the l check box for the Version, and the r check box for the battery voltage aka udc2


Spot Values Gauges 1 arrow.jpg


and this is the result, note the URL see how now it passed these parameters to the next page?

Spot Values Gauges 2 arrow.jpg
Great, thanks for that .. fron a post from tom, it seems just one motor is displayed, the highest temp one..
This us good to know.

Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:06 pm
by Gregski
here I am just using my iPhone to show some basic virtual gauges: Volts, Amps, and RPM

I use the battery pack voltage as a fuel gauge for example 327 volts is 90% charged but that's as high as I am willing to go without BMS and I think I can run it down to like 265 maybe

the Amps show me how much current I am drawing

and the Speed gauge shows me the electric motor RPM

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Re: 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:43 pm
by Alibro
Gregski wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:55 pmIMG_5576.JPG
You're a hooligan!!! I'd never encourage such frivolity! :lol:

Re: [DRIVING] 1984 Voltswagen Rabbit Prius Gen 3 ZOMBIE

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:14 am
by MattsAwesomeStuff
WOOO!!!

Considering the weather there I don't really think it's fair to call that a burnout, as it's just what happens when a half-molten tire sitting in the sun for the afternoon makes contact with asphalt in normal operation.

Congrats on leaving the property and endangering public safety by letting it on the road. It's a real vehicle now!

Whelp. 2 - 0 to Greg.

On the flip side... after 10 years of being garage-less, I bought a house. The (literal) cheapest house in the city that is functionally cheap (not, $50k cheaper but needing $70k of work. Actually cheap, and not needing immediate work). Eventually I'll get my car moving. Sitting in limbo not wanting to work on it while it's capable of rolling right now. Coincidentally, it also has a gas dryer, I've never seen one before. But natural gas heat is ~1/3 the price of electrical heat, so, it makes sense I suppose.